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Mar 11 2016 03:53pm
Quote (card_sultan @ Mar 11 2016 01:04pm)
Since you claim to hate libertarians/tea party, thats why you raged when I suggested Trump was essentially a liberterian. He not a true conservative, he's not a democrat, he's not a socialist.
Dude, I just don't care.

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Mar 11 2016 04:00pm
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Nothing stops them. I guess I don't really understand the question.

i guess it was a malformed question, people talk about stars disappearing behind black holes and astral bodies all the time, but you never hear "a small smattering of light from X star" was discovered for a fraction of a second, you'd think if this was a fairly common occurrence (which it would have to be if dispersion was the only thing interfering), it would be quite notable for mapping the universe.

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Expansion is what makes it where you can continue to see 'old' light that was emitted before an object began to recede faster than the speed of light. Light emitted right before that time is flying towards us at about 300,000,000 m/s but the distance between the light and the earth is growing at almost the same speed so it takes longer and longer for that light to reach us.


have we conclusively proved the universe can expand faster than light? i was under the impression krauss was still arguing with...well, everyone about this.
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Mar 11 2016 04:05pm
Quote (Azrad @ Mar 11 2016 04:45pm)
false


See - I knew your were a tard, I copied that formula from google

I bet you're misreading the \ symbol as / symbol - don't know the difference and trying to blame me for your incorrectness.

It's like you've only read one book ever and think that that book is the only way to write something.

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Dude, I just don't care.


Deflection works , i totally believe you.

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I bet you're misreading the \ symbol as / symbol
oops yeah i guess i did mis-read the symbol, my mistake.

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Mar 11 2016 04:22pm
card_sultan, can you address the following:


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And instead of the considering the size alone of the sun to determine its quality of light

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at no time did i consider the size of the sun. I didn't consider its surface area, or its volume; and I didn't model it as a circle. Where is all this coming from?
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Mar 11 2016 06:04pm
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card_sultan, can you address the following:


the first statement , since you quoted the formula for determining the surface area of the sun , I assumed you were using its size to determine light intensity on Earth/Mars

I didn't use the size of the sun but its heat (as in avg midday equator temperature) as I'm pretty sure the Sun would be its only source of heat, I don't think Mars has much of any molten core or even much of an atmosphere to retain heat, so if you're considering the quality or intensity of light, heat is a fairly accurate way to correlate the two, size and distance away are another way - neither is wrong - their is more than one way to skin a cat.
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Mar 11 2016 06:46pm
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you think?


Then what's with your post lol
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Mar 11 2016 06:49pm
Quote (card_sultan @ Mar 11 2016 03:04pm)
πr2 is not r x 2 , its r x r = it's just a common way to write it on a keyboard and is used because πr2 is such an important equation, the 2 is not the big 2, it's the little 2 (u know the squared one) , wtf is pi*r*2, for you to even think of πr2 as pi*r*2 is pretty stupid - it's obviously pi * r * r - it's like not understanding that the phrase "to the power of 2" and "squared" mean the exact same thing


No, πr2 literally means π*r*2 how can you even argue otherwise when you learn this notation of multiplication in like 6th grade
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as in avg midday equator temperature
but you used an average temp from one object and an extremal for the other. Does that sound like a reasonable way to compare things to you?

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I don't think Mars has... much of an atmosphere to retain heat
yes but the Earth does. Does that sound like a reasonable way to compare things to you?

Furthermore you set up a porportion between temperatures in Farenheit. Consider the following senerio: Joe and Bob are going to see how can throw a ball the furthest. They go to a field where distances have numeric labels. The starting point is labeled -50. The middle of the field is labeled 0, and the far side is labeled 50. Joe throws his ball and it lands on the 1 marker (he threw it 51 units). Bob throws his ball and it lands on the 50 mark (he threw it 100 units). According to the logic you used with temperature, Bob threw his ball 50/1 = 50 times further. Before you complain, this is exactly how the Farenheit temperature scale is set up (with 0 being soewhere in the middle of the scale instead of at one end) which is why you shouldn't use it for this kind of arguement. Does that sound like a reasonable way to compare things to you?




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No, πr2 literally means π*r*2 how can you even argue otherwise when you learn this notation of multiplication in like 6th grade


π*r*2 means nothing, idk what that even is? πr2 is just a way to type pi r squared, try googling it before you make stupid assumptions.

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but you used an average temp from one object and an extremal for the other. Does that sound like a reasonable way to compare things to you?


I only used avg equator temperature at noon - you're the one who is think that's a representation of Avg temperature of the entire planet and trying to conflated your failed assumption of what I was talking about. Like your comment about the weather and that making it too complicated to figure it all out - thats why im using just the equator temperature at noon.

Pretty unreasonable assumption by yourself, do you have any other kind? Average equator temperature on earth compare to the same stat on mars would be a fairly decent way to figure out Light variance between the two.

I dont think it would work on Venus because the atmosphere there is so think - probably the same on Saturn.

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