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Oct 15 2014 03:54pm
Its always expanding there is in theory no limit
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Oct 16 2014 12:36pm
There is an infinite amount of numbers between 1 and 2 yet 3 isn't in there.
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Oct 16 2014 04:05pm
See; Stephen Hawking's theory of multiple universes, where multiple and parallel universes are possible, each with it's own finite sets of rules and regularities.

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No, your statement is contradictory. Something that is infinite can not be finite. The universe is always expanding, and will not stop expanding.


This may not be true. Have you ever actually verified that it cannot stop? Take, for example, the stretching of a fabric. There are only so many molecules to make up the strands for the piece of fabric, which can only be stretched to a certain extent before tearing/falling apart. Since we can't create molecules from nothing, there has to be a finite amount of them within the universe - which would lot expansion.
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See; Stephen Hawking's theory of multiple universes, where multiple and parallel universes are possible, each with it's own finite sets of rules and regularities.



This may not be true. Have you ever actually verified that it cannot stop? Take, for example, the stretching of a fabric. There are only so many molecules to make up the strands for the piece of fabric, which can only be stretched to a certain extent before tearing/falling apart. Since we can't create molecules from nothing, there has to be a finite amount of them within the universe - which would lot expansion.


well now the topic goes even deeper lol...im well aware of that muliple universe theory as stated in previous posts aswell hehe. when talking molecules and atoms you are indeed correct sir. atoms and molecules are limited but are still being produced due to stars going supernovas. this is what scientists theorize "The number of atoms in the entire observable universe is estimated to be within the range of 1078 to 1082.". Now for the longest time astronomers believed the universe would collapse on itself, new evidence shows that is not the case as it is expanding at an even faster rate than before. So fast they say near the end the universe will literally fly apart space will be empty and all that will be remaining will be few burnt out stars and black holes(which do exist). now why would would space be empty. most likely due to the limited building blocks such as molecules. It is common knowledge that when the big bang happened matter and anti matter were released. however there was an imbalance there was 1 more matter than anti matter. that 1 matter is responsible for this whole universe
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Oct 17 2014 12:35am
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well now the topic goes even deeper lol...im well aware of that muliple universe theory as stated in previous posts aswell hehe. when talking molecules and atoms you are indeed correct sir. atoms and molecules are limited but are still being produced due to stars going supernovas. this is what scientists theorize "The number of atoms in the entire observable universe is estimated to be within the range of 1078 to 1082.". Now for the longest time astronomers believed the universe would collapse on itself, new evidence shows that is not the case as it is expanding at an even faster rate than before. So fast they say near the end the universe will literally fly apart space will be empty and all that will be remaining will be few burnt out stars and black holes(which do exist). now why would would space be empty. most likely due to the limited building blocks such as molecules. It is common knowledge that when the big bang happened matter and anti matter were released. however there was an imbalance there was 1 more matter than anti matter. that 1 matter is responsible for this whole universe


Essentially our universe is created from a perfect imperfection of circumstances, if you will. It's fascinating to think about how many imperfections had to happen for the universe to form, let alone life to exist.
Eventually, I believe the universe will stop growth due to limited particles and potentially shrink (taking billions more years if this is the case) in theory, it could already be shrinking or stopped but due to the amount of time it takes for light to travel, we could very well just not be observing it.
The accelerated speed of expansion hints at it, as things tend to expand faster when they're given more room to do so.

I'm by no means an astronomist but it's some food for thought
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Oct 17 2014 05:40am
Indeed all we can do is speculate at this point
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Oct 17 2014 04:11pm
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Indeed all we can do is speculate at this point


Yes speculation is the key
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Oct 17 2014 10:25pm
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If the universe were infinite and with that every possible outcome were possible for any given event

Wouldn't it also be true that in an infinite universe the universe would be finite?


You probably realize that this is a logically contradictory post.

Are you perhaps saying that a particular universe within a multiverse is finite? This is a much different claim.
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If the universe were infinite and with that every possible outcome were possible for any given event

Wouldn't it also be true that in an infinite universe the universe would be finite?



i would have to say yes. in order for every possible outcome to be true everything in the infinity would be finite unless its all being possible at the same moment.
so with that said is our consciousness what is finite and our soles infinite.
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Oct 17 2014 10:40pm
Quote (redneckraindear @ Oct 18 2014 12:34am)
with that said is our consciousness what is finite and our soles infinite.


the bottom of my shoe is definitely infinite
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