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#31
Nov 25 2013 12:43pm
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Quantum Physics is strange...Entanglement of two electrons ...no matter the distance you get 1 to react and change, the other 1 will do the same...Soo we can use something with this affect, to comunicate instantly soon I would think..if 1 person watching 1 electron while other 1 worlds apart makes the other 1 react....is just 1 small thing this should lead us too.

soo even if you by a star, that takes 1 billion years for the light to reach earth...you can instantly send a message to earth


this could explain how someone picking up messages from today ...could send them back to earth intangled in the minds of the past..we do have electrons in our brains, do we not?
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#32
Nov 25 2013 01:13pm
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this could explain how someone picking up messages from today ...could send them back to earth intangled in the minds of the past..we do have electrons in our brains, do we not?


explain this how? this happens?

random electrons are not just entangled. it takes work to get the pair.

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Quantum entanglement is a physical phenomenon that occurs when pairs (or groups) of particles are generated or interact in ways such that the quantum state of each member must subsequently be described relative to the other.


Its way more complicated then getting two electrons and measuring one.

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Entanglement is usually created by direct interactions between subatomic particles. These interactions can take numerous forms. One of the most commonly used methods is spontaneous parametric down-conversion to generate a pair of photons entangled in polarisation.[51] Other methods include the use of a fiber coupler to confine and mix photons, the use of quantum dots to trap electrons until decay occurs, the use of the Hong-Ou-Mandel effect, etc. In the earliest tests of Bell's theorem, the entangled particles were generated using atomic cascades.
It is also possible to create entanglement between quantum systems that never directly interacted, through the use of entanglement swapping.


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Nov 25 2013 01:31pm
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explain this how? this happens?

random electrons are not just entangled. it takes work to get the pair.



Its way more complicated then getting two electrons and measuring one.


if anyone from the past seen the future...this is 1 way to explain it? Electrons breaking the speed of light equation= a timeline open from past to future? even if just small bits of entangled information...

if it cant happen naturally...then maybe by intelligent design
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#34
Nov 26 2013 03:03am
Quote (doomchaser @ 25 Nov 2013 10:16)
Quantum Physics is strange...Entanglement of two electrons ...no matter the distance you get 1 to react and change, the other 1 will do the same
Actually the other one adopts the opposite spin, not the same spin.

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Soo we can use something with this affect, to comunicate instantly soon I would think..if 1 person watching 1 electron while other 1 worlds apart makes the other 1 react....is just 1 small thing this should lead us too.
It does not work that way. Because the outcome of the first experiment is random, the outcome of the second experiment, while opposite from the first, is also random. If you go back to the gloves someone mentioned earlier you will realize that when someone finds the left glove in their box, they will instantly know the other person has the right glove. But there is no way to send a message with this.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Faster-than-light#Quantum_mechanics
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Certain phenomena in quantum mechanics, such as quantum entanglement, appear to transmit information faster than light. According to the no-communication theorem these phenomena do not allow true communication; they only let two observers in different locations see the same event simultaneously, without any way of controlling what either sees




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Nov 26 2013 12:47pm
Quote (doomchaser @ Nov 25 2013 12:31pm)
if anyone from the past seen the future...this is 1 way to explain it? Electrons breaking the speed of light equation= a timeline open from past to future? even if just small bits of entangled information...

if it cant happen naturally...then maybe by intelligent design


i am asking has there ever been a case of this happening? you are saying something possibly can happen, such as people SEEING THE FUTURE and are then claiming that quantum entanglement PROVES THAT IT CAN HAPPEN. and you even go on to say it might be caused by a GOD.

people cannot see the future. quantum entanglement does not allow things to be seen in the past or future. and i wont mention the god part
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#36
Nov 26 2013 01:23pm
Quote (khemist @ Nov 26 2013 11:47am)
i am asking has there ever been a case of this happening? you are saying something possibly can happen, such as people SEEING THE FUTURE and are then claiming that quantum entanglement PROVES THAT IT CAN HAPPEN. and you even go on to say it might be caused by a GOD.

people cannot see the future. quantum entanglement does not allow things to be seen in the past or future. and i wont mention the god part


Well people have claimed to see the future, and some have made good predictions..If something like that is possible, maybe something like entanglement could cause the result.

Science behind things people wish to call magic, or gifts from God.
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Nov 26 2013 04:36pm
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Well people have claimed to see the future, and some have made good predictions..If something like that is possible, maybe something like entanglement could cause the result.
Science behind things people wish to call magic, or gifts from God.


well, i saw the future too
what did i see?
another silly 'doomchaser' post without any foundation in reality :P
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#38
Nov 26 2013 11:45pm
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Well people have claimed to see the future, and some have made good predictions..If something like that is possible, maybe something like entanglement could cause the result.

Science behind things people wish to call magic, or gifts from God.


people have claimed to be jesus but they are lying to themselves and others.

seeing the future is not possible. like i said in my pm, there is no mechanism or theory in physics that actually allows for time travel. it is a result of allowing equations to find results in areas they are not suitable for. for example, if you approach c, according to the Lorentz transformations an observer would see your clock slow down to zero. luckily it has been tested, tested, and tested again that c is not possible and time never really "stops."

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Nov 29 2013 09:49am
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people have claimed to be jesus but they are lying to themselves and others.

seeing the future is not possible. like i said in my pm, there is no mechanism or theory in physics that actually allows for time travel. it is a result of allowing equations to find results in areas they are not suitable for. for example, if you approach c, according to the Lorentz transformations an observer would see your clock slow down to zero. luckily it has been tested, tested, and tested again that c is not possible and time never really "stops."


yeah yeah physics did not allow for invisibility either... they used to teach it was against the law of physics for it to be possible.even when we had it working for years, we just now learning about it.

Time travel I would assume same.

Soo I said, that many people believe they, or others can see the future....Lets say they right....how would you explain it without entanglement...visions from god? and not something that can happen, without a supernatural force?

or just say that can't happen all those people must be mistaken..or just nuts...Well you one of those people that believes science has all the answers, and they willing to share them all with you..
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Nov 29 2013 12:11pm
Quote (khemist @ Nov 27 2013 12:45am)
people have claimed to be jesus but they are lying to themselves and others.

seeing the future is not possible. like i said in my pm, there is no mechanism or theory in physics that actually allows for time travel. it is a result of allowing equations to find results in areas they are not suitable for. for example, if you approach c, according to the Lorentz transformations an observer would see your clock slow down to zero. luckily it has been tested, tested, and tested again that c is not possible and time never really "stops."


There is a difference between "I do not see how it is possible that" or even "current scientific theory is inconsistent with" and "it is not possible that". I'm not saying that doomchaser's arguments are even worth responding to, let's at least be clear about what we do and do not know.
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