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Nov 12 2013 03:27pm
Quote (khemist @ Nov 12 2013 12:52am)
black holes dont work that way sorry :(



oh really? Hmm if I could remember Neil Tyson from this one podcast explaining this exact topic. Eventually black holes will eat everything....eventually

Maybe I heard it wrong, or interpreted it wrong...Black holes will eat anything, even light can't escape a black hole(probably heard this a billion times). Unless you're talking about the gamma ray burst? Maybe I'm confused about black holes in general. I'm not a physicist(yet)!

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Nov 12 2013 07:25pm
Quote (DarkNebula1 @ Nov 12 2013 02:27pm)
oh really? Hmm if I could remember Neil Tyson from this one podcast explaining this exact topic. Eventually black holes will eat everything....eventually

Maybe I heard it wrong, or interpreted it wrong...Black holes will eat anything, even light can't escape a black hole(probably heard this a billion times). Unless you're talking about the gamma ray burst? Maybe I'm confused about black holes in general. I'm not a physicist(yet)!


nothing can escape their pull... once you are inside the even horizon. if an equal mass black hole replaced the sun our orbit wouldnt change
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Nov 13 2013 03:06am
Quote (DarkNebula1 @ Nov 12 2013 03:27pm)
oh really? Hmm if I could remember Neil Tyson from this one podcast explaining this exact topic. Eventually black holes will eat everything....eventually

Maybe I heard it wrong, or interpreted it wrong...Black holes will eat anything, even light can't escape a black hole(probably heard this a billion times). Unless you're talking about the gamma ray burst? Maybe I'm confused about black holes in general. I'm not a physicist(yet)!



Black holes will absorb anything that gets close enough to it, but I don't believe there is any evidence to suggest they keep growing and will absorb everything though. They also don't last forever, they very slowly radiate energy/mass and eventually disappear.
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Nov 17 2013 09:07am
big bang=false
universe was created by Jesus
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Nov 17 2013 10:28pm
Quote (thenoose @ Nov 13 2013 02:06am)
Black holes will absorb anything that gets close enough to it, but I don't believe there is any evidence to suggest they keep growing and will absorb everything though. They also don't last forever, they very slowly radiate energy/mass and eventually disappear.


they only disappear if they are small enough. otherwise their gravitational pull is able to bring in enough "stuff" (EM waves, matter, etc) to keep it alive.

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Nov 17 2013 11:27pm
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they only disappear if they are small enough. otherwise their gravitational pull is able to bring in enough "stuff" (EM waves, matter, etc) to keep it alive.


if hawking radiation can be confirmed then even the largest black hole would very, ...., very slowly dissipate if there is nothing left in reach to be pulled in
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Nov 18 2013 01:20am
Quote (brmv @ Nov 17 2013 10:27pm)
if hawking radiation can be confirmed then even the largest black hole would very, ...., very slowly dissipate if there is nothing left in reach to be pulled in


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However, since the universe contains the cosmic microwave background radiation, in order for the black hole to dissipate, it must have a temperature greater than that of the present-day black-body radiation of the universe of 2.7 K = 2.3 × 10−4 eV. This implies that M must be less than 0.8% of the mass of the Earth[22] - approximately the mass of the Moon.


Taken from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hawking_radiation

The CMB gives the black hole enough energy so that it doesnt quite dissipate unless below a certain threshold.

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Nov 20 2013 11:01am
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Taken from [URL=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hawking%5Fradiation]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hawking_radiation[/URL]

The CMB gives the black hole enough energy so that it doesnt quite dissipate unless below a certain threshold.


I guess you could argue that since the strength of the CMB diminishes with time, that eventually larger and larger black holes will not be sustainable by it.
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Nov 20 2013 12:02pm
Quote (Rocinante @ Nov 20 2013 10:01am)
I guess you could argue that since the strength of the CMB diminishes with time, that eventually larger and larger black holes will not be sustainable by it.


True, but the rate of cooling in the universe is so slow that I think that can be negated unless talking about timescales on the order of billions of years
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Nov 20 2013 03:57pm
Quote (khemist @ 20 Nov 2013 18:02)
True, but the rate of cooling in the universe is so slow that I think that can be negated unless talking about timescales on the order of billions of years


and isn't that what one is talking about in terms of the universe anyhow?
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