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Oct 7 2013 11:13pm
Quote (FullArcFG @ Oct 7 2013 09:25am)
Seems that you continue to toss out your Absolute Authority, but your own words undermine that very concept. It is ridiculous to tout Evolution as a theory of Origin, because it is not. Not even a novice evolutionary biologist would even make such a simple blunder, yet you throw it around as the Rosetta stone of your wisdom. Science has no explanation of Origins of life, you know this. The best bet so far is "it came to earth from somewhere else". Which is no explanation at all, so please don't throw your religion in my face as the only vested substantiation when it has none at all.

I never said evolution was a theory of origin. I never mentioned abiogenesis at all. It's funny how you assume other people have just as flawed an understanding of basic evolutionary concepts as you do. But I didn't really expect much from someone who would try to defend a worldview that confidently asserts that the world is less than 10,000 years old. It takes a strong delusion and willful ignorance to adhere to such an idea.
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Oct 8 2013 05:40pm
I like how this went from wrinkled fingers in the bathtub to deep philosophical debate about the origins of life.
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Oct 9 2013 11:27am
ahah thats awesome :D
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Oct 12 2013 11:26pm
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I like how this went from wrinkled fingers in the bathtub to deep philosophical debate about the origins of life.


sounds to me like
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Oct 13 2013 02:03am
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Many people thought it was because it's water absorbing into your skin, or your skin losing oil, etc. But nope...

http://d1wd8l4xj8vlky.cloudfront.net//wp-content/uploads/2013/09/fingerswrinkle.jpg

It is due to a mechanism triggered by our nervous system. When our fingers wrinkle, it is  easier to grip objects underwater. It means the wrinkling is an evolutionary response to the change of our environment.

That is all folks, good day.


Does this apply to my dick when it wrinkles every time it gets wet?
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Oct 13 2013 02:10am
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Does this apply to my dick when it wrinkles every time it gets wet?


no that is male impotence
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Oct 27 2013 09:06pm
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I'm proud to say I knew this :)


same, lol :)
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Nov 5 2013 12:47pm
To op.

I got to throw my 2 cents in this :D

First of all, I read a nice text a long time ago (I could find the reference if needed) that proposed a different angle of Darwinism, or more of a new way to study and analyse traits. It is in no mean against it or trying to argue with it, but its pointing out the fact that theres some kind of paradigm in evolutionary biology that considers every traits as an adaptation. Every time a distinctive trait is observed in nature, we tend to immediately ask Why? The idea here is to point that it is a very teleological way to see the biological world. As if every trait was developed for that particular function.

So from what I read, there would be what they call exaptations. An exaptation is a trait that could develop for a certain purpose, or even for no purpose at all, and later be use for a totally different reason. Birds feathers is a common example of this, as they are thought to have appeared for internal temperature regulation before being adapted for flying.

I wanted to point this out because of the text under the picture. First of all, its says that the fingers prune underwater ''for'' an enhanced grip, which comes from an evolutionary trait. As pointed out before, it could have been an exaptation that would later become very useful since it enhanced our grip underwater. I dont know the whole research that has been made to make this statement, so I cant really argue with it, but I just wanted to say that it might not have evolved ''for'' this in the sense that it was the exact purpose of this trait.

Second thing about the text under the picture is how they give two different reasons for fingers to prune underwater, and those two reasons are, in essence, pretty different. For the first one, that is said to be false, fingers prune cause it absorbs water (ok I dont think this is true, we are just talking to talk :D ). The reason why fingers change from a normal state to this state is because they absorbed water. We are talking about what effects occur on the finger so it becomes prune. In the second part of the text, its said that fingers prune for an enhanced grip. Here we are talking about what effects can have prune finger on other things.

The first part propose that the prune fingers are the EFFECT of a cause, water. Then the second part says that the finger prune is the CAUSE of an effect, an enhanced grip.

My point? Saying that fingers prune ''because'' it enhances grip does NOT falsify by itself the fact that what it could prune ''because'' it absorbs water or loses its oil.
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Nov 13 2013 03:46pm
Do ape fingers prune underwater?

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Nov 14 2013 02:14pm
Your fingers prune because you're getting soggy

leave a corpse in water and it will do the same thing at first
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