Quote (bentherdonethat @ Jan 7 2013 09:45pm)

I'm not going to sort through 80 minutes of garbage. Put up or shut up. Cite times in the video, at the very least.

Quote (Azrad @ Jan 7 2013 10:19pm)

Person A: Watch the video, it's got evidence.
Person B: Can't you just give me a time stamp?
Person A: Don't be lazy, watch it yourself.
later...
Person B: OK, I watched it, I didn't find any evidence.
Person A: You must not have paid attention, watch it again.
later...
Person B: OK, I watched it (again), I didn't find any evidence.
Person A: You must not have paid attention, watch it again.
repeat ad infinitum...

So again, you are setting up an unfalsifiable situation.

A good question is: Why do these crackpot ideas always seem to involve unfalsifiable arguments?

Quote (Cannabist @ Jan 7 2013 09:28pm)

Somehow I don't believe any of the detractors have watched the video or read any of Gerson's books

Quote (Azrad @ Jan 7 2013 10:30pm)

we haven't because we don't want to get into the situation I posted.

Quote (Cannabist @ Jan 7 2013 09:32pm)

So you're copping out.

Quote (Azrad @ Jan 7 2013 10:52pm)

Sorry I don't investigate unfalsifiable claims. To quote Laplace: "The weight of evidence for an extraordinary claim must be proportioned to its strangeness". Unless that video contains scientifically collected statistical data (or at least instructions on where to get this data), it has no evidence supporting the claim. If it does contain this, please give us the timestamp for it.

Quote (Cannabist @ Jan 7 2013 10:05pm)

If you would look into Gerson's material you would find evidence.

Quote (Azrad @ Jan 7 2013 11:08pm)

I don't think it exists. You claim it does exist. See if I look for it and don't find it, you'll just say I didn't look hard enough.  This is a very simple situation to resolve. You provide it and this will no longer be a point of contention.

Quote (russian @ Jan 7 2013 10:19am)

These "doctors are scam artists" posts remind me of the time when I worked in retail IT support cleaning viruses and reinstalling OSes. I couldn't believe how many people had a firmly held belief that I, and every other person like me, purposefully install "delayed" viruses, or do some other technical voodoo that makes the machine work fine for a limited time and then break so you'd come back and give us more money. Alternatively, we would allegedly tell them they need to buy a new piece of hardware because we get some kickback from the retailer who sells it, when the customer either doesn't need the hardware at all, or we could have easily fixed whatever was broken instead of replacing it. They basically said the same thing about us that some people here say about doctors, except in relation to their computers rather than their bodies.
Needless to say, I thought they were batshit crazy tinfoil hatters, and continued doing my best to remove whatever stupid malware shit they managed to clog their computers with. I imagine doctors the world over have a pretty similar view of their conspiracy-nut patients.