what exactly would compete with a bigfoot? given it supposed to be ape-like a lot of those other factors like breeding age, birth rates, life span would be.

saying "if there's not many of them" is just an out of nowhere assumption. so mating, habitat range are also predictable given the information people have supposedly found.

so again with a creature such as big foot there isn't going to be much holding it back except for age and natural disasters. as far as animals go it has a many many advantages over other successful species so it goes to show that if the reports about bigfoots range, size, intelligence were true then this would be an animal that would have a significant population much like other apes do.

Funny that you disagreed with me using "if" but you argument with that yourself.
That's fine for me tho, since we don't know anything for sure, don't know why you disagreed with that.

As for competition, a bear for example could be one. Not to mention there would most likely be a lot competition for food between many specied too. And food is one of the most important factories imo. (Which you succesfully skipped completely)
ps. Gorillas are also big apes, and do they have "significant population"?

my "if" part was referring to the thing existing at all...not a guess at population(which given all the supposed sightings all over the place should be quite a few).

if bigfoot was real and the majority of the sightings were legitimate then all evidence would point to there being lots of them all over the country.

this is exactly the problem with the current idea of bigfoot...its top of its food chain, its apparently all over the damn place, its intelligent enough to use tools yet for some unknown reason it doesn't reproduce like a normal mammal.

bears would be competition....but do you have close to a hard time finding a bear when you know where they are supposed to be? nope because people document them all the time.

so if bears outnumber them so vastly how on earth would bigfoot survive at all? there is just far too much inconsistency in bigfoot being a real thing and the problems i've listed. nature follows a pretty specific path for survival and bigfoot is apparently incapable of following that path since it somehow manages to be near extinction will all of its supposed advantages.

I'm not arguing whether bigfoot exists or not.
The thing I mentioned in my first post is still valid: The size of population is not limited only by death by age and natural disasters when there isn't predator.

for an animal like bigfoot is pretty much is.

Then explain Gorillas? They are big apes yet there are so very little of them.


I don't believe at all lol, but you are completely ignoring some of Dorieus' points. Pretty funny thread

bears with boots on

are there so little of them you can't go out and find them? what other ape like species has been supposedly spotted for hundreds of years yet hasn't ever actually been verified to exist?

there are some gorilla species that have become endangered...but thats largely due to poaching and extremely aggressive habitat loss caused by humans. other large apes that are endangered(yet still easy to find, take pictures, videos etc) have to deal with something that bigfoot species do not. there are vast refuges for bigfoot to live in and there isn't any poaching....so as i said before: with the supposed information we have on bigfoot it makes NO sense for it to be unverified species and to be a mystery after this damn long.

i'm not ignoring any of his points...i just don't see a point in addressing the problems that other ape species barely have to deal with.

outside competition=aside from bears and humans there is none...and they would easily be able to deal with a bear.
competition with each other=thats silly considering you can't even find one of them so why would you think there are so many they have to compete with each other?
disease=short of thinking they all have testicular cancer from birth this isn't going to stop population rising to noticeable levels.
infant mortality=being as big foot is ape-like, large, intelligent(so they say) you can expect a high chance of living til adulthood
breeding age=again we can estimate this because its ape-like..same goes for life span and how many babies they birth at any one time.
population density=pointless to discuss since we can't even find one. this is also part of the debate since naturally a dominant species like bigfoot would have significant numbers because of the stuff i've outlined.

all of that is common sense and has not been a problem for other ape species so why would you figure bigfoot is somehow the only one that doesn't follow the ape species pattern?

A $4 disposable camera from a drug store can take better quality pictures than the ones people have taken "of bigfoot".

If a bigfoot species existed, there would have to be dozens of them to propagate the species, at least. Sightings would not be as rare as you're suggesting, especially given how many people are ardent believers looking for them.