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Jun 12 2012 02:24pm
Quote (HeLiCaL @ Jun 12 2012 03:23pm)
data is freely accessed, dummy


your comprehension skills are lacking.
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Jun 12 2012 04:07pm
Quote (Subwoofer @ Jun 12 2012 10:24pm)
your comprehension skills are lacking.


check it out bro

i open a book and see data

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Jun 13 2012 02:08am
Quote (Subwoofer @ Jun 13 2012 06:47am)
you're comparing apples and oranges. physicist have observable data in which to theorize about whereas people like the guy i quoted have almost no data and will sit around make baseless theories.

theorizing without any data is the single biggest waste of time there is. those people should either go out and look for more data or move on because it doesn't do anyone any good to sit around theorizing if they have no clue what they are talking about.


the bracelet is observable data
its not the only data
and any body of knowledge has to be built up

history generally calls these people pioneers

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Jun 13 2012 04:30am
Thats incredible.


This happened in my town, is really bad lol

http://www.museumsassociation.org/museums-journal/news/15052012-wenlok-jug-stolen

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The Wenlok Jug, a rare example of metalwork dating from the 15th century, has been stolen from a high-security display case at the Stockwood Discovery Centre in Luton. 

The bronze medieval jug was subject to an export bar in 2005 after it went for auction at Sotheby's and was nearly sold to the Metropolitan Museum in New York.

Luton Museums Service raised the £750,000 needed to keep the jug in the UK through a national fundraising campaign and had financial support from the National Heritage Memorial Fund, the Art Fund, the Headley Trust, the Friends of Luton Museums and others.

The jug, which is inscribed with the words My Lord Wenlock, was taken from its case on Saturday 12 May between 11pm and 11.25pm. It measures 31.5cm in height and weighs 6.1kgs.

Karen Perkins, director of Luton Museums, said: “This is an extremely serious and upsetting situation. The Wenlok Jug is a nationally significant medieval object, which came close to being lost to the UK when it went up for sale with Sotheby’s in May 2005.

“We are extremely proud that the Wenlok Jug is part of the collections at Stockwood Discovery Centre and are working extremely closely with police and investigators to do all we can to recover it.”

Bedfordshire Police have launched an investigation and have visited the scene to complete a forensic examination. The officer in charge of the investigation, detective constable Tracy Hall, said she is keen to speak to anyone who has information about the whereabouts of the jug or anyone who may have information about those responsible for the burglary.

The theft follows a number of high-profile burglaries from museums. In April, two Chinese artifacts were stolen from Durham University’s Oriental Museum. The 18th-century jade bowl and a Dehua porcelain figurine were later recovered and four men were charged with the break-in.

Also last month, 18 Chinese artworks were stolen from the Fitzwilliam Museum in Cambridge after four people broke into the museum.

Other thefts this year include stone-age axes from the Yorkshire Museum, a number of Lord Nelson artefacts from Norwich Castle Museum, and two statues of Buddha from Ulster Folk and Transport Museum.

At the same time, museums have been forced to remove some objects from display because of a spate of rhino horn thefts.


The jug in question is worth £3,5million
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Jun 13 2012 11:21am
seriously did anyone look at that graph?

LOL
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Jun 13 2012 12:21pm
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the bracelet is observable data
its not the only data
and any body of knowledge has to be built up

history generally calls these people pioneers


would you call bigfoot hunters, ghost hunters, mayan 2012 believers, ancient astronaut believers a group of pioneers?

the first two its obvious stupidity but then you get trolled into "maybe" areas. this is because you are too busy going "well there is some historical data" instead of going "there isn't enough to actually make any claims this big".

its the same stupid argument you get from christians in a new package. they packaged regular historical data with god and jesus and people can't tell them apart at that point.
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Jun 13 2012 01:52pm
I'm pretty sure they made up "multi-scale tribological analysis" just for this article, too

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Quote (Subwoofer @ Jun 13 2012 08:21pm)
would you call bigfoot hunters, ghost hunters, mayan 2012 believers, ancient astronaut believers a group of pioneers?

the first two its obvious stupidity but then you get trolled into "maybe" areas. this is because you are too busy going "well there is some historical data" instead of going "there isn't enough to actually make any claims this big".

its the same stupid argument you get from christians in a new package. they packaged regular historical data with god and jesus and people can't tell them apart at that point.


blackhole was a "maybe" in the past and and dummies similar to yourself who were bashing the idea now ride Karl Schwarzschild's dik
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Jun 13 2012 04:01pm
Quote (bob(Cs2) @ Jun 13 2012 04:30am)
Thats incredible.


This happened in my town, is really bad lol

http://www.museumsassociation.org/museums-journal/news/15052012-wenlok-jug-stolen



The jug in question is worth £3,5million


Wow.

I didn't think high stake museum heists occurred outside of Hollywood.
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Jun 13 2012 11:24pm
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blackhole was a "maybe" in the past and and dummies similar to yourself who were bashing the idea now ride Karl Schwarzschild's dik


thats a stupid argument. thats like saying ghost hunters are credible because people use to think the earth is flat. you don't know how to distinguish credible theories from stupidity.

the fact of the matter is no matter what scientific field you are in you must follow scientific method to have a credible theory. the ones that have lets say a handful of artifacts and then turn it into ancient aliens are factual are the ones you are trying to defend.
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