http://electric-cosmos.org/arp.htm

"Arp discovered, by taking photographs through the big telescopes, that many pairs of quasars (quasi-stellar objects) which have extremely high redshift z values (and are therefore thought to be receding from us very rapidly - and thus must be located at a great distance from us) are physically associated with galaxies that have low redshift and are known to be relatively close by. Arp has photographs of many pairs of high redshift quasars that are symmetrically located on either side of what he suggests are their parent, low redshift galaxies. These pairings occur much more often than the probabilities of random placement would allow. Mainstream astrophysicists try to explain away Arp's observations of connected galaxies and quasars as being "illusions" or "coincidences of apparent location". But, the large number of physically associated quasars and low red shift galaxies that he has photographed and cataloged defies that evasion. It simply happens too often

Because of Arp's photos, the assumption that high red shift objects have to be very far away - on which the "Big Bang" theory and all of "accepted cosmology" is based - is proven to be wrong! The Big Bang theory is therefore falsified. "

no

the universe is either an infinite plan or finite torus (in both cases finite on the z axis).

If the universe is finite, the light would probably just curve back on itself similar to a black hole
If the universe is infinite, then it would never leave just based on the definition of what infinite means

arps photos are illusions or conincedences of apparent location

Ahhhh, okay finally I understand why the universe could be expanding forever, because of the repulsive force of dark matter.
Always thought it had to get back together over the long run due to the never ending force of gravity.

This post was edited by YaC on May 15 2012 09:05am

Correct me if I'm wrong, but Dark Matter would have a gravitational force since it is in fact matter. Dark Energy is the repulsive force.

I've heard of a theory where the expansion of the universe would slow down due to the gravitational effect of dark matter, come to a stop, and then begin collapsing back down.

And remember guys and gals...ALL of these are just theories.

yes