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#31
Dec 15 2011 09:46pm
Quote (Ocen @ Dec 13 2011 03:16pm)
if a person receives pain signals, but can't translate them into pain, is it still pain?

I said the signals are there, they can be tested. But one cannot get into your head and feel your feelings. At least not with this technology (and I doubt it will happen).


have you ever cooked somthing and put your hand on the hot stove without realizing it? and then as soon as you do it starts to hurt?
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#32
Dec 16 2011 04:51pm
Quote (kayeto @ Dec 15 2011 10:37pm)
Can you perceive the hunger pains that starving African kids are experiencing?


It isn't real until I can perceive it.
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#33
Dec 16 2011 05:04pm
Does not have to be tangible to be real
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#34
Dec 16 2011 05:17pm
Quote (Trademarks @ Dec 16 2011 04:51pm)
It isn't real until I can perceive it.


i think you're consistently forgetting the phrase "to me"
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#35
Dec 16 2011 05:21pm
Quote (Derkaderk @ Dec 16 2011 07:17pm)
i think you're consistently forgetting the phrase "to me"


My reality has nothing to do with anyone else's.
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#36
Dec 16 2011 05:26pm
Quote (Trademarks @ Dec 16 2011 05:21pm)
My reality has nothing to do with anyone else's.


well the way i see it, reality is independent of the observer...i mean...there were things before there were organisms to observe them
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#37
Dec 16 2011 05:30pm
Quote (Derkaderk @ Dec 16 2011 07:26pm)
well the way i see it, reality is independent of the observer...i mean...there were things before there were organisms to observe them


How can you tell?
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#38
Dec 16 2011 05:33pm
Quote (Trademarks @ Dec 16 2011 05:30pm)
How can you tell?


science
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#39
Dec 16 2011 05:34pm
Quote (Derkaderk @ Dec 16 2011 07:33pm)
science


Have you ever seen the organisms you spoke of?
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#40
Dec 16 2011 05:35pm
Quote (Trademarks @ Dec 16 2011 05:34pm)
Have you ever seen the organisms you spoke of?


uhh...are you asking me if i've ever seen organisms that observe? yes. i've seen lots of them
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