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Oct 21 2011 05:34pm
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If I told you there was evidence of life on Mars somewhere in the TV show "Nova" wouldn't you want me to find the exact episode that contains that evidence? Or if I told you that scientists had found incontrovertible proof of a god and it was published in Nature magazine, wouldn't you want me to provide the name of the article with that proof? It's not an unreasonable request.


Disbelief in the absence of evidence is skeptical. It's practically the definition of skeptical, actually. The opposite of skepticism is gullibility.

I told you that My Ghost Story contains only evidence, but you argued that they did not want investigations done or something and that that makes their evidence invalid.
I already knew about the micro organism that was found.
The point of the "ghost" show is to have viewers and then profit from having them, so they will have a full episode of each of their investigations regardless of if they found any evidence, because someone has to watch it to know if it had evidence, so I am sorry that I cannot name certain episodes for you, because I wish that my memory was that good...
You are still skeptical, yet there had been substantial evidence I'm favor if ghosts being real?

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Oct 21 2011 06:14pm
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]I told you that My Ghost Story contains only evidence[/B], but you argued that they did not want investigations done or something and that that makes their evidence invalid.
I already knew about the micro organism that was found.
The point of the "ghost" show is to have viewers and then profit from having them, so they will have a full episode of each of their investigations regardless of if they found any evidence, because someone has to watch it to know if it had evidence, so I am sorry that I cannot name certain episodes for you, because I wish that my memory was that good...
You are still skeptical, yet there had been substantial evidence I'm favor if ghosts being real?


bold: if unverifiable claims make something real to you then why do you bash on the religious? its the same thing they do yet yours is right and theirs is wrong.

italic: they tell stories for attention then when they get attention they don't let people look for themselves. i have a billion dollars in my bedroom.....but you can't go in there. another unverifiable claim you call a fact.
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Oct 21 2011 06:26pm
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bold: if unverifiable claims make something real to you then why do you bash on the religious? its the same thing they do yet yours is right and theirs is wrong.

italic: they tell stories for attention then when they get attention they don't let people look for themselves. i have a billion dollars in my bedroom.....but you can't go in there. another unverifiable claim you call a fact.

I am almost certain that there was an investigation in one of the My Ghost Story episodes, and they are not refusing investigators. How much would it cost to get professionals to investigate?
I am not bashing religion...
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Oct 21 2011 06:37pm
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I am almost certain that there was an investigation in one of the My Ghost Story episodes, and they are not refusing investigators. How much would it cost to get professionals to investigate?
I am not bashing religion...


point is you can claim anything you want without proof. not once have the ghost hunter shows had proof just guesses and exaggeration.

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What is wrong with wanting to know what happens after we die?
At least I have not brought in religion saying that we will be reincarnated or go to Heaven or Hell...


is bashing religion
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Oct 21 2011 06:44pm
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point is you can claim anything you want without proof. not once have the ghost hunter shows had proof just guesses and exaggeration.



is bashing religion

I never bashed anything by stating that I did not state that we could go to Hell or Heaven or be reincarnated, IMO, but for those who do not believe in those things might wonder what happens after death, and ghosts are being proven to exist with evidence that others are choosing to not believe to be "real", although the evidence was not faked.

What about the many times that video has captured intelligent voices and/or apparitions?

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I never bashed anything by stating that I did not state that we could go to Hell or Heaven or be reincarnated, IMO, but for those who do not believe in those things might wonder what happens after death, and ghosts are being proven to exist with evidence that others are choosing to not believe to be "real", although the evidence was not faked.

What about the many times that video has captured intelligent voices and/or apparitions?


if ghost were real then it would be OBVIOUSLY true to everyone cause everyone would have issues with them. here and there cases from reality tv shows is not proof its entertainment.

proof of ghost isn't shadows/voices that are easily faked/anything else you can do at home with a dark room and a cheap video camera/someone to make noises just around the corner..........

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I told you that My Ghost Story contains only evidence, but you argued that they did not want investigations done or something and that that makes their evidence invalid.
I already knew about the micro organism that was found.

"Evidence" that does not stand up to scientific scrutiny is not evidence at all. If they don't have anyone investigating their claims, then those claims are baseless and likely biased or falsified.

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The point of the "ghost" show is to have viewers and then profit from having them, so they will have a full episode of each of their investigations regardless of if they found any evidence, because someone has to watch it to know if it had evidence, so I am sorry that I cannot name certain episodes for you, because I wish that my memory was that good...

The point of the ghost shows is to take advantage of people's superstitions and gullibility. Seems to have worked with you.

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You are still skeptical, yet there had been substantial evidence I'm favor if ghosts being real?

No, there hasn't. If there had been you would be able to do a quick Google search to find incontrovertible proof.
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Oct 21 2011 07:27pm
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if ghost were real then it would be OBVIOUSLY true to everyone cause everyone would have issues with them. here and there cases from reality tv shows is not proof its entertainment.

proof of ghost isn't shadows/voices that are easily faked/anything else you can do at home with a dark room and a cheap video camera/someone to make noises just around the corner..........

I concur that they could be faked, but how about the live episodes, like the one that Travel Channel usually does on Halloween?
I hope to be able to see it or record it this Halloween, but I admit that it is a huge letdown when nothing is captured.
My Ghost Story had a monkey looking creature that appeared on camera next to someone's bed, so that was nor a shadow.
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Oct 21 2011 07:50pm
IDK how to embed a YouTube video with my phone, but if I Google "Eastern State Prison Ghost", it shows something that, IIRC, Ghost Hunters caught.
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Oct 21 2011 11:19pm
only if you're religious.
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