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Sep 26 2011 11:39am
Quote (Jupe @ Sep 25 2011 05:09pm)
but how do we light speed


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Sep 26 2011 02:03pm
if this is correct, we would have to update everything we know about physics since almost 90% of everything we know is based on the assumption that nothing is faster than the speed of light
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Sep 26 2011 04:34pm
Quote (Matthewbonns @ Sep 26 2011 04:03pm)
if this is correct, we would have to update everything we know about physics since almost 90% of everything we know is based on the assumption that nothing is faster than the speed of light

Well, at least we won't have to throw out all of that physics, because even if this turns out to be correct and neutrinos really can go faster than the speed of light, then our previous understanding is still very good at approximating most situations. It's similar to how we can still use Newtonian Gravity in most situations even though we know General Relativity is more correct.
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Oct 1 2011 05:30am
Quote (bentherdonethat @ Sep 26 2011 05:34pm)
Well, at least we won't have to throw out all of that physics, because even if this turns out to be correct and neutrinos really can go faster than the speed of light, then our previous understanding is still very good at approximating most situations. It's similar to how we can still use Newtonian Gravity in most situations even though we know General Relativity is more correct.


Heh, trying to make lemonade when reality hands us lemons about one of our most embraced predictive observations? I think the answer will be presented in a more scientific format to explain the apparent contradiction. So far I think the leading suggestion is that the Neutrinos slipped into the 5th dimention, then popped back into ours again, thus taking a "6 Nano Second" shortcut to arrive at the detector faster than light. :) Heck all we need to do now is prove the 5th dimention and we are right back on track with answering this conundrum as well as continuing on our quest for explaning if mass is popping into and out of existence to explain continued expansion of the universe. Either way, this is pretty cool stuff.
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Oct 6 2011 11:31pm
my minds blown
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Oct 7 2011 11:54pm
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Oct 8 2011 01:34am
now they are saying that the speed of light is still unbreakable, its just that light goes faster and slower throughout different areas of the universe
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Quote (Heretic_Anthem @ Sep 25 2011 07:04am)
Lets say we have a space ship traveling at exactly the speed of light, and u decide to walk forward at 5 mph thru the ship...you would be technically breaking the light speed barrier yes?
No...mass cannot travel faster and in order to keep this constant, time itself slows down to barely a crawl to keep you under the speed of light, so yes this is the way relativity works.
Just because we see something does not mean that is occuring to that object.


actually ....
1st we must establish a reference frame from which we can say " this ship is travelling at the speed of light "
once we do this however , we would perceive , from this reference frame , that a clock on board the ship , is not moving ( the second hand never moves , " time " on board the ship never " advances " )
therefore , we are unable to actually perceive anyone , or anything , " move forward on the ship " , as it would seem to be " frozen in time " , from the perspective of a reference frame that perceive's it as moving at light speed


again
always remember that a clock that moves at light speed does not change its " time " ( but rather is considered as " frozen in time " )


once again
if a person was on board a ship , that from a reference frame " a " ,he is travelling at light speed , and that from refernce frame " a " , that ship , and the person on board , can be observed for millions on years ( in fact , an infinate amount of time ) , and absoulty no internal motion would ever be observed ( the person on the ship would not age one second , his heart would not beat even once )

it is in fact impossible to observe a person move , if he is travelling at light speed .....

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