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Aug 9 2011 05:40pm
Quote (DieTryin' @ 9 Aug 2011 17:20)
In the average person these days the stomach is very acidic because people have been leading acidic lifestyles there whole lives, and it takes time to balance it out. The pancreas produces sodium bicarbonate which is the secretion that neutralizes those acids, so the more acidic you eat, the more tax you put on your pancreas. You have to remember it takes 20 parts alkalinity to neutralize 1 part acidity, so if the food leaving the stomach is at a pH of 3-4 and the food has to be alkalized to a pH of 8.0-8.4, that would mean the food you're eating from let's say pH 4.0 - 8.0 is 10, 000 times more acidic, now you're really giving your pancreas a hard time, It's no wonder we have so many diabetics. The stomach can go alkaline with the right diet, like mine is. Digestion is in alkaline process not an acidic process. The stomach produces sodium bicarbonate too.


While its true the pancreas creates acid buffers for digestion, very little actually is involved in gastic digestion. The pancreas relases enzymes to help breakdown food, not buffer stomach acid.
Our body has a naturally ocillating balance between alkaline and acid.
Mouth/eso = Alkaline
Stomach = Acidic
Duodenum = Slighly acidic (this is where the bicarbonate is needed because of leftover stomach acid.) No suprise there is a direction connection between the duodenum and the pancreas, as well as the liver.
Small intesne - anus = alkaline

I laughed my ass off when you said you had an alkaline stomach. That would kill you, i hope you understand that. You wouldnt be able to digest anything.
and LOL@diabetes. Acid buffers from the panceas has ABSOLUTLY nothing to do with diabetes. If you knew anything about it, diabetes is a disorder involving insulin and leptin. The main factor is insulin resistance. This has nothing to do with the exocrine function of the pancreas. This is why we all think your a moron

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Now you've got me confused, you had 2 good posts in a row, now I see you using the words benefit and animal products in the same sentence, what happened? The human body creates It's own B12. I haven't eaten meat for 2 years nor have I ever taken a B12 supplement, and I am not deficient in any way.

Animal products are the only way we receive good amino acids other then eggs? Wow, you've really gone down hill.

Go back and study again.


Eatting a diet like the one im assuming you're eatting, probably a raw vegan diet or at least vegetarian diet; its easy to see why you might say that. However, if you abstain from animal products completely, you're going to hurt yourself. And 2 years... really? Who on earth has become deficient in 2 years? We're talking like 10-15 years. Especially b12 since it takes a long time to become deficient. Plus, phytic and oxlatic acid in the foods you eat a lot of block vitamin and mineral absorption. This is even worse if you're a raw foodist.

B12 is made in the GI system of animals, and it does not occur in humans in the same way. We do not make even close to enough to maintain a DRI.

And i did not say that animal products are exclusively the only source of high quality protein, but look at the nutritional profile of an egg, compared to quinoa. Even quinoa which is very high in protein, cannot even compare to the biological value of an egg. And there are some amino acids that we can only obtain through animal sources.

Go back and study again.
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Aug 9 2011 05:44pm
Quote (DieTryin' @ Aug 9 2011 12:02am)
That's because he's going in the wrong direction. I have experienced myself a 100% complete reversal with my disease that I had for over 20 years that drugs did nothing for me but make me sicker and weaker. Medicine = food, not drugs.

I don't even know how people can be so blind to think chronic illness is a mystery. Keep going left with big pharma, I turned right 2 years ago, and I'm not looking back.



Cancer is not a liquid poisioning a cell.
Idk wtf happened to this thread, I went away to study for my exam for a day and shit got out of control lol.
Cancer starts with 1 individual cell that starts to grow uncontrolably. Most of the time its due to a failure in the G0 phase, evading apoptosis, evading growth inhibiting signals, a RAS gene mutation, or an irregular protein p53 (50% of all human tumors are caused by this).

I dont mean to trash you, but just because you had cancer doesnt make you an expert on it. I know this may make me sound like a dick but its the straightest answer I could give.
If I had a heart attack, I dont think that makes me an expert on them.

Does diet make an impact however? yes. It always does.

Also, if your argument is purely on diet, then how do kids get leukemia. Are you going to tell me that these kids diets are so shitty that they can get cancer at such a young age because of it?

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Quote (Toothfariy @ Aug 9 2011 04:40pm)
While its true the pancreas creates acid buffers for digestion, very little actually is involved in gastic digestion. The pancreas relases enzymes to help breakdown food, not buffer stomach acid.
Our body has a naturally ocillating balance between alkaline and acid.
Mouth/eso = Alkaline
Stomach = Acidic
Duodenum = Slighly acidic (this is where the bicarbonate is needed because of leftover stomach acid.) No suprise there is a direction connection between the duodenum and the pancreas, as well as the liver.
Small intesne - anus = alkaline

I laughed my ass off when you said you had an alkaline stomach. That would kill you, i hope you understand that. You wouldnt be able to digest anything.
and LOL@diabetes. Acid buffers from the panceas has ABSOLUTLY nothing to do with diabetes. If you knew anything about it, diabetes is a disorder involving insulin and leptin. The main factor is insulin resistance. This has nothing to do with the exocrine function of the pancreas. This is why we all think your a moron



Eatting a diet like the one im assuming you're eatting, probably a raw vegan diet or at least vegetarian diet; its easy to see why you might say that. However, if you abstain from animal products completely, you're going to hurt yourself. And 2 years... really? Who on earth has become deficient in 2 years? We're talking like 10-15 years. Especially b12 since it takes a long time to become deficient. Plus, phytic and oxlatic acid in the foods you eat a lot of block vitamin and mineral absorption. This is even worse if you're a raw foodist.

B12 is made in the GI system of animals, and it does not occur in humans in the same way. We do not make even close to enough to maintain a DRI.

And i did not say that animal products are exclusively the only source of high quality protein, but look at the nutritional profile of an egg, compared to quinoa. Even quinoa which is very high in protein, cannot even compare to the biological value of an egg. And there are some amino acids that we can only obtain through animal sources.

Go back and study again.

One of the main purposes of the pancreas is to buffer any acids leaving the stomach.
Stomach = slightly acidic/slightly alkaline

The pH of my stomach varies between 6.8-7.2, lol.

Digestion is an alkaline process done in the small intestines, there is no need for a highly acidic stomach to digest raw green vegetables. The acids in the stomach are needed to digest heavy meals like ones including lots of protein, which is why my stomach does go acidic, but for the most part it stays around 7.0

Buffering acids from the stomach beats the shit out of your pancreas, and over time it just stops functioning normally, and yes this includes the insulin it produces especially if you're eating a lot of sugary foods for a long time, or if your pancreas is in a weakened state to begin with. You REALLY need to learn what diabetes is, because I can tell you're in the dark. It's no wonder people "believe" there is no cure for diabetes, they all think like you lmfao! Keep going left.

I'm not vegan or vegetarian, or a raw foodist.

Yes, our bodies do produce the DRI of B12.

Are you aware that the same acid found in car batteries are found in eggs as well? Really, what amino acids can we not get on a plant-based diet that we can only get from meat?

Last I read, Sprouts, hemp seed, soy and yes quinoa, just to name a few off the top of my head are all "complete" proteins. I really can't believe the things you said(or maybe I can, considering how poor most peoples health is).


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Cancer is not a liquid poisioning a cell.
Idk wtf happened to this thread, I went away to study for my exam for a day and shit got out of control lol.
Cancer starts with 1 individual cell that starts to grow uncontrolably. Most of the time its due to a failure in the G0 phase, evading apoptosis, evading growth inhibiting signals, a RAS gene mutation, or an irregular protein p53 (50% of all human tumors are caused by this).

I dont mean to trash you, but just because you had cancer doesnt make you an expert on it. I know this may make me sound like a dick but its the straightest answer I could give.
If I had a heart attack, I dont think that makes me an expert on them.

Does diet make an impact however? yes. It always does.

Also, if your argument is purely on diet, then how do kids get leukemia. Are you going to tell me that these kids diets are so shitty that they can get cancer at such a young age because of it?

Yes, cancer is a liquid poisoning the cell. Even if you want to look at cancer as a cell, those cells still thrive in acidic conditions, and can be buffered, and reversed with the proper alkaline protocol.

100% of all tumors are acidic, and surrounded by acid.

Kids get cancer at a young age because there parents had a shitty diet and there reproductive organs were unhealthy, which causes an unhealthy offspring.
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Aug 9 2011 06:13pm
Where do you get this surrounded by acid/acid conditions thing?

Also do you feel this way about all diseases or just cancer?
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Aug 9 2011 06:22pm
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Where do you get this surrounded by acid/acid conditions thing?

Also do you feel this way about all diseases or just cancer?

I thought tumors = acidic, was already commonly known for the most part?

It's the same for all chronic illness. You see, most people focus on good nutrition for the most part, but they're forgetting another crucial role in the body which is the pH. Restore the pH of the body and you will restore your health. You cannot be alkaline and sick at the same time.
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Aug 9 2011 06:29pm
Quote (DieTryin' @ Aug 9 2011 08:22pm)
I thought tumors = acidic, was already commonly known for the most part?

It's the same for all chronic illness. You see, most people focus on good nutrition for the most part, but they're forgetting another crucial role in the body which is the pH. Restore the pH of the body and you will restore your health. You cannot be alkaline and sick at the same time.


Can you show me a link where it states "All cancer tumors grow in acidic environments"
Because thats wrong. They thrive in acidic environments. They can grow in any type of environment, its just acidic is the best for them.

Also, if this was true, wouldnt it mean that stomach cancer would be the most popular type because of how acidic it is. Wouldnt cancerous tumors form there right away due to this?
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Can you show me a link where it states "All cancer tumors grow in acidic environments"
Because thats wrong. They thrive in acidic environments. They can grow in any type of environment, its just acidic is the best for them.

Also, if this was true, wouldnt it mean that stomach cancer would be the most popular type because of how acidic it is. Wouldnt cancerous tumors form there right away due to this?

See if you can find it in here, I'm not hunting down more links, I already know this stuff. http://phmiracleliving.com/t-scientific-articles.aspx

Just google tumor and acidic conditions, you'll find what you're looking for. Also, tumors cannot grow in an alkaline environment.

The stomach walls are powerful enough to put up with those acidic conditions, but for how long? Lots of people do have stomach cancer, stomach ulcers, etc. You will not get stomach cancer, ulcers, or w/e with a slightly acidic to slightly alkaline stomach.
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Aug 9 2011 07:44pm
Quote (DieTryin' @ Aug 9 2011 09:24pm)
See if you can find it in here, I'm not hunting down more links, I already know this stuff. http://phmiracleliving.com/t-scientific-articles.aspx

Just google tumor and acidic conditions, you'll find what you're looking for. Also, tumors cannot grow in an alkaline environment.

The stomach walls are powerful enough to put up with those acidic conditions, but for how long? Lots of people do have stomach cancer, stomach ulcers, etc. You will not get stomach cancer, ulcers, or w/e with a slightly acidic to slightly alkaline stomach.


Im not going to sort through a random link if your not going to bother quoting it.
Lots of people have stomach cancer, but its not even ranked on the list you can see in the chart here: http://www.cancer.gov/cancertopics/types/commoncancers
How can you possibly say that the stomach is slightly acidic. The pH is ~2-3. This should be perfect for your theory that tumors want to grow in acidic solutions. So then why is it that breast/colon/rectal/lung are some of the most popular(?) cancers out there.
Examples:
The pH of your colon is between 4-6, less acidic than your stomach, so shouldnt cancer grow less here?
If your going to say your stomach is too acidic, then what about the upper portion of your stomach where the pH also ranges from 4-6
http://altered-states.net/barry/update178/index.htm
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Aug 9 2011 07:54pm
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Im not going to sort through a random link if your not going to bother quoting it.
Lots of people have stomach cancer, but its not even ranked on the list you can see in the chart here: http://www.cancer.gov/cancertopics/types/commoncancers
How can you possibly say that the stomach is slightly acidic. The pH is ~2-3. This should be perfect for your theory that tumors want to grow in acidic solutions. So then why is it that breast/colon/rectal/lung are some of the most popular(?) cancers out there.
Examples:
The pH of your colon is between 4-6, less acidic than your stomach, so shouldnt cancer grow less here?
If your going to say your stomach is too acidic, then what about the upper portion of your stomach where the pH also ranges from 4-6
http://altered-states.net/barry/update178/index.htm

Most peoples stomach pH ranges from 2-4, mine doesn't anymore. The pH of my stomach ranges from 6.8-7.2 as I've already said like 3 or 4 times. Just because the area is acidic does not mean you're going to automatically have cancer, it starts in the weakest link of the body.

The pH of my colon is alkaline.
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Aug 9 2011 08:05pm
Quote (DieTryin' @ Aug 9 2011 09:54pm)
Most peoples stomach pH ranges from 2-4, mine doesn't anymore. The pH of my stomach ranges from 6.8-7.2 as I've already said like 3 or 4 times. Just because the area is acidic does not mean you're going to automatically have cancer, it starts in the weakest link of the body.

The pH of my colon is alkaline.


You do realize that at a pH of 6.8-7.2 your stomach wont be able to digest any meats right.
I know your a vegetarian/vegan (or at least I hope so with your sig/ava etc.) but you realize the other 95% of the population cant function this way right?
It doesnt start in the weakest part of the body. It starts where there is a gene fuck up. Or a protein fuck up
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