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Jun 12 2011 10:33am
What i find more interesting is antineoplaston therapy by Dr. Burzynski.

He reports that he sees actual results and even eliminates the cancer in those cancers where the conventional chemotherapy has a success of like 5%. His success is around 35%. I'm talking about frontal brain tumors in small children, or adrenal cancer.

Look him up :)
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Jun 12 2011 12:48pm
Quote (rockonkenshin @ Jun 12 2011 09:53am)
I'm not sure that you or Cannabist understand any of what you are saying. There is no peer-reviewed scientific study that confirms any of your crazy ass theories on cancer.


@Bold - Peer review is bullshit. As long as your study follows the money paradigm then you're ok, otherwise you are ridiculed. As has been stated already, there is no profit to be had from curing the masses. If you want to be rich you have to keep them sick and treat the symptoms.

Take your ignorance to GC, they love that sort of shit there.
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Jun 12 2011 01:28pm
Quote (Cannabist @ Jun 12 2011 01:48pm)
@Bold - Peer review is bullshit. As long as your study follows the money paradigm then you're ok, otherwise you are ridiculed. As has been stated already, there is no profit to be had from curing the masses. If you want to be rich you have to keep them sick and treat the symptoms.

Take your ignorance to GC, they love that sort of shit there.


I agree with what you say, however there is no need to pretend like zeitgeist is the ultimate truth in life.
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Jun 12 2011 07:16pm
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I agree with what you say, however there is no need to pretend like zeitgeist is the ultimate truth in life.


Zeitgesit is BS too. A lot of truth with a little bit of lies doesn't cut it.
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Jun 12 2011 10:39pm
It appears that no one in this thread understands the way cancer or your immune system works.
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Quote (Cannabist @ Jun 4 2011 09:36am)
Very well put. A huge obstacle in all of this, I've noticed, is that modern food seems to cause addiction. People love their sugar, coffee, red meat, etc. and vehemently refuse to let go of them. People are their own worst enemy as far as health is concerned.

Just the way big pharma likes it.


Quote (Cannabist @ Jun 4 2011 02:57pm)
Yeah, HFCS is horrible, as most sweeteners are. I think stevia is the only alkaline sweetener available. Although I'm not sure if it remains alkaline once digestion starts(meat has this issue, alkaline when raw but acidic when cooked or digested).

Couple that with all the pasta and bread and other various starchy foods and yeah it makes for an unhealthy populace.

Fruits and veggies people, get with it!

All Stevia burns to an acidic ash once digested by the body, though it is considered a safe sweetener even by the standards that I go by, and should be the unprocessed green leaf Stevia, not the processed white stuff. Though in order to reverse any symptomologies of disease or cancer, you must avoid all sugars, except those found in green leafy vegetables, and other low sugar fruits like avocados.


Quote (rockonkenshin @ Jun 12 2011 07:53am)
I'm not sure that you or Cannabist understand any of what you are saying. There is no peer-reviewed scientific study that confirms any of your crazy ass theories on cancer.

I think I've already explained this, there is obviously nothing booming about this in main stream information because there is no money involved. What part of this do you not understand? "Crazy ass theories on cancer"? What theories? These are proven facts fool that I've used on myself and experienced results beyond belief. I think you need to get your head out of your butt and realize that cancer is not something you get, It's something we do.


Quote (Toothfariy @ Jun 12 2011 09:33am)
What i find more interesting is antineoplaston therapy by Dr. Burzynski.

He reports that he sees actual results and even eliminates the cancer in those cancers where the conventional chemotherapy has a success of like 5%. His success is around 35%. I'm talking about frontal brain tumors in small children, or adrenal cancer.

Look him up :)

I'm going to take a wild guess you did not read any of the posts before yours.


Quote (TeH SaNdMaN @ Jun 12 2011 09:39pm)
It appears that no one in this thread understands the way cancer or your immune system works.

Would you be so kind to enlighten us? I would be happy to point out just how wrong you are.

I really cannot believe how uneducated everyone is in this day and age. I mean you guys have the internet now, information is free, just look it up. Be a leader not a follower. Stop listening to the drug ads on tv etc. Go do the research yourself on how to maintain proper health which does not just come from proper nutrition, but also maintaining the alkaline design of the human body. When your alkaline design breaks down, you break down. This is called the aging process, you are constantly getting new cells as well as recycled cells. Acid breaks down these cells in the body, the more acid in your body means the faster you age, which means the faster you die.

I feel like I'm teaching grade school, but It's worth it if it helps someone.

This post was edited by DieTryin' on Jun 13 2011 03:25am
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Jun 13 2011 10:00am
Quote (DieTryin' @ Jun 13 2011 04:19am)
I feel like I'm teaching grade school, but It's worth it if it helps someone.


Yeah this is a really hard topic to cover with people. People get so comfortable with the modern medical paradigm that they're unwilling to see beyond it. Plus it doesn't help when the truth puts people in a position where they are forced to take responsibility for their own actions, instead of blaming their problems on "germs" and genetics.
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Jun 13 2011 11:16am
Quote (TeH SaNdMaN @ Jun 12 2011 11:39pm)
It appears that no one in this thread understands the way cancer or your immune system works.


Not in the slightest.

Could you explain to me?
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Jun 14 2011 03:04am
Quote (DieTryin' @ Jun 13 2011 07:19pm)
Just the way big pharma likes it.



All Stevia burns to an acidic ash once digested by the body, though it is considered a safe sweetener even by the standards that I go  by, and should be the unprocessed green leaf Stevia, not the processed white stuff. Though in order to reverse any symptomologies of disease or cancer, you must avoid all sugars, except those found in green leafy vegetables, and other low sugar fruits like avocados.


I think I've already explained this, there is obviously nothing booming about this in main stream information because there is no money involved. What part of this do you not understand? "Crazy ass theories on cancer"? What theories? These are proven facts fool that I've used on myself and experienced results beyond belief. I think you need to get your head out of your butt and realize that cancer is not something you get, It's something we do.



I'm going to take a wild guess you did not read any of the posts before yours.



Would you be so kind to enlighten us? I would be happy to point out just how wrong you are.

I really cannot believe how uneducated everyone is in this day and age. I mean you guys have the internet now, information is free, just look it up. Be a leader not a follower. Stop listening to the drug ads on tv etc. Go do the research yourself on how to maintain proper health which does not just come from proper nutrition, but also maintaining the alkaline design of the human body. When your alkaline design breaks down, you break down. This is called the aging process, you are constantly getting new cells as well as recycled cells. Acid breaks down these cells in the body, the more acid in your body means the faster you age, which means the faster you die.

I feel like I'm teaching grade school, but It's worth it if it helps someone.


No money in developing an anti-aging scheme? Are you kidding? Money aside, if this theory had the validity that you say, scientists would be all over it. Remember, alternative medicine just becomes medicine if it is properly scientifically validated.

Aging is definitely not based purely on "the alkaline design of your body." I admittedly don't know a lot about this "alkalife" thing but after a quick scan over the website it seems like some alternative medicine pseudoscience to me, although I'd be happy to be proved wrong.

Aging is an extremely complex interplay many different biological mechanisms. Nutrition does play a key role but the present literature shows it's more to do with insulin levels/intolerance and insulin-like growth factors (IGF-1). The main contributor is genetics, there is no disputing that. Specially, it is to do with telomeres degradation and the inability of the lagging strand to fully complete synthesis in DNA replication, due to not having an RNA primer. Another contributor is reactive oxygen species (ROS) causing damage to cellular energy generation processes like the electron transport chain, at least in oxygen dependent organisms.

I'm majoring in molecular genetics btw and I've written reports on the role of insulin in aging.

Edit: forgot to mention, most of the current research into cancer revolves around the molecular regulation of a gene called p53, which is a tumor repressor gene.

This post was edited by lims101 on Jun 14 2011 03:09am
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wat :O
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