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May 12 2010 07:50pm
Quote (tedmore @ May 11 2010 02:17pm)
oh i wasnt familiar with the way he worded it, of course i know about the big bang. rather, the big bang THEORY. theres no proof and also there is something unexplainable behind the big bang even if it were true. something like that doesn't just naturally occur


There is proof. Space has background radiation from the big bang. The universe is expanding. Thus, if you start to rewind it, it all comes together to form a singularity.
The matter that makes up life is not "unlikely". Asteroids are full of frozen water, and many people believe they seeded Earth with organic molecules.
The planet is not in a "perfect" position. Our solar system is one of the quiet ones. If we never developed an ozone layer (From an organism converting carbon dioxide to oxygen over millions of years), then we wouldn't be alive today and probably would have never had any complex life. Not to mention all the countless setbacks from meteors, massive volcanic eruptions, and all those ice ages.

And how is the theory of the big bang more far fetched then God randomly sneezing out the universe, then planting Dinosaur bones in the ground for us to dig up thousands of years later to confuse us.

Maybe this will help.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aUaO0LNhKcQ

This post was edited by ZvLoD on May 12 2010 07:54pm
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May 15 2010 02:05pm
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Well I am going to state right here I am a Christian so I don't believe in evolution or the big bang theory. (Google some stuff that proves that the earth is only about 6000-1000 years old). But what I am saying is that neither the atheist nor the theist can be 100% proven by science. Nobody knows where God came from (the Bible states that humans won't ever be able to comprehend his ways) and nobody can explain where these stars that exploded came from. Both require faith.


i am a geologist, have held rocks over 4 billion years old, dont even suggest the earth is younger than this, (its more around the 5 Bya mark to be more accurate.)

And as for this --> "the Bible states that humans won't ever be able to comprehend his ways" how very convienient....

And " both require faith" pathetic attemt to answer any question.
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Quote (ZvLoD @ May 13 2010 02:50am)
There is proof. Space has background radiation from the big bang. The universe is expanding. Thus, if you start to rewind it, it all comes together to form a singularity.
The matter that makes up life is not "unlikely". Asteroids are full of frozen water, and many people believe they seeded Earth with organic molecules.
The planet is not in a "perfect" position. Our solar system is one of the quiet ones. If we never developed an ozone layer (From an organism converting carbon dioxide to oxygen over millions of years), then we wouldn't be alive today and probably would have never had any complex life. Not to mention all the countless setbacks from meteors, massive volcanic eruptions, and all those ice ages.

And how is the theory of the big bang more far fetched then God randomly sneezing out the universe, then planting Dinosaur bones in the ground for us to dig up thousands of years later to confuse us.

Maybe this will help.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aUaO0LNhKcQ


this is also correct, we can measure radioactive decay rates over time (Half-Life) which can be extremely long periods of time.
the earth for example is found to at least 4.8 Bya

This post was edited by Mike_Hawk on May 15 2010 02:07pm
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Quote (The_Pulverizer @ 11 May 2010 11:49)
Religion and science never mix good.


Depends on the religion.
And what prevents God from creating the Big Bang and setting evolution to motion?

People are generally assuming everyone's Christian, and every Christian believes in creationism.

This post was edited by sevlo on May 15 2010 02:08pm
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May 15 2010 02:16pm
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Depends on the religion.
And what prevents God from creating the Big Bang and setting evolution to motion?

People are generally assuming everyone's Christian, and every Christian believes in creationism.


there are of course "closet cristians" (lol what i call them) who dont really believe in all that, but just use it for the social advantages. (I know many)

This post was edited by Mike_Hawk on May 15 2010 02:17pm
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