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Mar 23 2010 09:26am
Quote (Boonce @ Mar 23 2010 10:30am)
As Sharkpack alluded to, my point was that reproduction is no longer limited to those species that have the optimal survival characteristics. Instead they can feed off the superior mutations through the norms of the society we live in (tax -> health care, unemployment payouts, etc.).


So poor people are genetically inferior? Thats just straight up not true.
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Mar 23 2010 09:14pm
Yes, but we counter it with increasingly sophisticated technology

Was probably already mentioned but I didn't feel like reading all four pages of responses

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Mar 23 2010 09:18pm
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Yes, but we counter it with increasingly sophisticated technology

Was probably already mentioned but I didn't feel like reading all four pages of responses


Technology is one of the things that is weakening us, which yes, was mentioned.
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Mar 24 2010 03:24am
Quote (Jonasfcb @ Mar 22 2010 01:19pm)
So I was doing some random thinking the other day while I was on a long 3 hour drive.
Other animals are slowly "perfected" through means of natural selection and darwin's theory... meaning that the better an animal can survive the more offspring it can produce.
Since humans don't really follow this natural cycle, are we actually ruining our genes?
Before you post, I do realize that we follow the cycle to an extent, like if you have an extreme gene mutation you die early, or sometimes never make it full term in the womb.
But I also realize that even the fat guy that lives off the government and doesn't provide for his family can still easily reproduce by means of prostitution and I guess rape.
Do improvements in health care make us a weaker species throughout time?


humans may seem very weak right now..but we are truly going to live on, dont worry
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Mar 24 2010 09:08pm
Quote (Bear_Grylls @ Mar 22 2010 01:26pm)
You know my stance on this.

We are definitely on a downgraded slope.


de-evolution doesnt exist. a species will always have the ability to reproduce anything in its genetic history. tho you are kind of right, people are getting lazier and prettier.
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Mar 25 2010 09:31am
Quote (HeLiCaL @ Mar 23 2010 06:56pm)
i herd Allah is an extraterestrial


Ofc he is, and for the most part, every other religions god is also extraterrestrial.
If they resided in this world, then they would not be very godlike, would they.

Quote (juliusjuice @ Mar 25 2010 09:08am)
de-evolution doesnt exist. a species will always have the ability to reproduce anything in its genetic history. tho you are kind of right, people are getting lazier and prettier.



I was referring about the spiritual, moral, and of course mental decline. That we a species as a hole are on due to technology.
The post itself was referring to a post that I made just before in a different thread, where I was talking about how technology is weakening our minds natural mental abilities.
Which of course, it is doing, well maybe not weakening but it is slowing down the evolution of.
And yes I do know there is a big difference, I guess I should of worded it a little better.

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Mar 26 2010 04:01pm
To throw this into another perspective.... Black people (gonna sound racist at first maybe the whole way)

Black people are naturally better athletes and more physically fit then most white people (excluding exceptions in both races)

There is some science behind this (Darwinism at its finest)

Back when slavery was widely excepted and practiced black people were sold in mass quantaties. However there were thousands more that were taken into slavery that never made it to the US and other slave accepting countries. The strong ones survived and the weak perished. To weed out the weak from the strong even further, only "big strong working niggers" were sold and allowed to "breed." This meant that only the best of the best black people were allowed to have children in slavery cause lets face it you don't want weak slaves that can't do a days work. Over several generations of this it became part of their genes to be more physically fit then the generations before them. Thus even today we see the effects of this genetic change.
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Mar 26 2010 04:06pm
Quote (Bear_Grylls @ Mar 25 2010 11:31am)
I was referring about the spiritual, moral, and of course mental decline. That we a species as a hole are on due to technology.
The post itself was referring to a post that I made just before in a different thread, where I was talking about how technology is weakening our minds natural mental abilities.
Which of course, it is doing, well maybe not weakening but it is slowing down the evolution of.
And yes I do know there is a big difference, I guess I should of worded it a little better.


Some could say tool use and technology is a sign of being highly evolved. Our technological advancements have allowed us to do things our distant ancestors could never have conceived.

When looking at a species intelligence, they typically look at tool use as a sign of intelligence.

This post was edited by Sioux on Mar 26 2010 04:06pm
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Some could say tool use and technology is a sign of being highly evolved. Our technological advancements have allowed us to do things our distant ancestors could never have conceived.

When looking at a species intelligence, they typically look at tool use as a sign of intelligence.


i think what hes getting at though is that these things take a higher level of intelligence to make and unfortunately for society, smart people dont breed as much. the world is repopulated with retards basically, most smarter business men/women and world/industry leaders are far to busy to have 2.5 kids (the natural rate of replenishment) so society makes up for it by having smart people with 0-1 kids and fucking complete morons that have 4-5
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Quote (FeaR-Swifty @ Mar 26 2010 06:10pm)
i think what hes getting at though is that these things take a higher level of intelligence to make and unfortunately for society, smart people dont breed as much.  the world is repopulated with retards basically,  most smarter business men/women and world/industry leaders are far to busy to have 2.5 kids (the natural rate of replenishment) so society makes up for it by having smart people with 0-1 kids and fucking complete morons that have 4-5


Smart people are always at the top of the bell curve. Bad argument.

Intelligence isn't wholly heritable. Smart people have dumb kids and vice versa.

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