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Jan 2 2010 11:28pm
Quote (WWumpscut @ Jan 1 2010 10:43pm)
actually that is where i disagree.
i hate to disagree with that statement, but we are already overpopulated enough. 
war helps thin us out a little.


The world is not overpopulated.

What about the hundreds, if not thousands of square miles of open land in the great plains and the midwest.

If we find ways to inhabit so-called "uninhabitable" areas, there will be plenty of room for everybody.

Another thing, some people are having more kids just so they can have child support and more money.

Corrupt politics are also playing a major part in world economics. ALL THE TIME politicians are sneaking side-events into their bills and propositions, meaning less and less money is actually going to the real problem.

While we are over in the middle east worrying about dictatorships and corrupt rebel groups, what about the mass genocides going on in Africa? Do we send all our troops there to start a war? No, we don't. Why?

Because apparently there isn't anything there worth saving...except hundreds of thousands of human lives!!

If you would like to hear more of my /rant send fg now.

This post was edited by frogger_dude on Jan 2 2010 11:28pm
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Jan 2 2010 11:29pm
i say we just stop production on the thing that harm us
but nope. ppl wont do that. they lose money. the government wont do it cause they lose money. losing money mean less ability to get resources. which means your easy to invade
there are ppl trying to make a difference. but one person cant change the world. cant break a chain with only a toothpick
i say we send a message to corperation thant cause harm, i say for one month. everyone stop buying things. stop driving cars. stop using power. live off ur land. and see what happens to the world
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Jan 2 2010 11:30pm
thats another bad thing to talk about is the farming problems that need to be fixed, the methods we have been using are just counter creative.

yes we do grow alot of crops, but the way we do it and the chemicals that we use just destroys as much as we create in the long run.
we need to get everyone to start only using organic methods in my opinion. both of you that brought of farming will get some fg
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Jan 2 2010 11:32pm
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Lol. And how would you farm? With a hoe and a bucket to water your plants with?
Everything you see today is a luxury , powered by MONEY. Take it away you have nothing. No incentive.

*EDIT - Spellings mistakes.


see. this is what ppl are today. they are too hung up on luxury that they cant get enjoyment out of simple things.
did you know that as technology has increase, many of which are to make our live easier, that depression, anger, and suicide rates have increased?
when people got enjoyment out of more simple things, people were more happy,
but hey thats my personal opinion.
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Jan 2 2010 11:33pm
Quote (WWumpscut @ Jan 3 2010 05:30am)
thats another bad thing to talk about is the farming problems that need to be fixed, the methods we have been using are just counter creative.

yes we do grow alot of crops, but the way we do it and the chemicals that we use just destroys as much as we create in the long run.
we need to get everyone to start only using organic methods in my opinion. both of you that brought of farming will get some fg


Wrong. Have you ever tried to grow food my friend? Without the use of chemicals the production rate would not even come close to meet the populations we are supplying today.
Chemicals are absolutey necessary in the production of food. Its like a human world without medicine.
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Jan 2 2010 11:35pm
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Wrong. Have you ever tried to grow food my friend? Without the use of chemicals the production rate would not even come close to meet the populations we are supplying today.
Chemicals are absolutey necessary in the production of food. Its like a human world without medicine.


Well, I'd say we got along fine without medicine for the first 3,000 years of human existence

Research "The Hadza"
They are a hunter-gatherer tribe in Northern Africa. They are living the same way they have since the beginning of hunting and gathering.
This tribe is completely seperated from technology and societies outside their own. There is an article on them in the December 2009 National Geographic Magazine.
Again, they live 100% complete and successful lives, they do not die of starvation, or dehydration. They are dependent on each other in their tribe, and in turn they want for nothing

This post was edited by frogger_dude on Jan 2 2010 11:43pm
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Jan 2 2010 11:36pm
Quote (d_destroyer @ Jan 3 2010 05:32am)
see. this is what ppl are today. they are too hung up on luxury that they cant get enjoyment out of simple things.
did you know that as technology has increase, many of which are to make our  live easier, that depression, anger, and suicide rates have increased?
when people got enjoyment out of more simple things, people were more happy,
but hey thats my personal opinion.


You dont understand. EVERYTHING you see today is a luxury. That shitty 82 Honda thats barley running? May seem like a piece of shit to most but even the ones that appreciate still dont understand the work it took to make that vehicle. The only thing you could possibly see today that wasnt man made is maybe a hike through a forest or on a mountain. Still , the roads to reach that destination , all the camping gear , bikes , canteens even all took a factory or something man made.
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Jan 2 2010 11:40pm
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Well, I'd say we got along fine without medicine for the first 3,000 years of human existence


Define fine. Humans may exist of course , but what of the millions of deaths that have happened due to something as common as a cold within that 3000 years?
Sure few still die today due to its virus and changing nature, but nothing of the caliber it was then. This is just an example as there are many others that Humans have cured saving millions.

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Well, I'd say we got along fine without medicine for the first 3,000 years of human existence


medicine was a good invention. i mean i would be dead without it
but really thought. humanity was a strong race. but medicine started to increase and our immune systems decreased
our bodys are slowly become reliant to medicine,

also. farm now use way too many chemicals. and why? too save crops to fead the increasing population
what effects does this have on the enviroment? well we thought none, now we know what its doing. killing fish, plant, ect
and what effects would not using these chemicals have? well we would lose more crops each year, which means we would need more land to grow food
that or we would have to let people starve to death
and this is one of the little situations we put ourselfs in. we didnt weigh the consequences of out actions 100 years ago, and now its almost too late
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Jan 2 2010 11:41pm
Quote (frogger_dude @ Jan 3 2010 05:35am)
Well, I'd say we got along fine without medicine for the first 3,000 years of human existence


lol
that is not true because the average life span of some1 3 thousand years ago was 30-34...

i also think that we should immediatley shut down HAARP
it is outragous, they are pushing the o-zone layer outwards, which is rapidly increasing the speed of global warming and taking it to the next level
and the whole point of HAARP is trying to control the weather, or that is what the public assumes (because the U.S. Gov. is keeping it a secret)
Only god and luck should be able to control weather, this is outrageous

http://www.cuttingedge.org/News/n1207.cfm

Also
Why the hell did obama shut down guantanamo bay
That is absurd.. I am sorry to say but i beleive that terrorists who did something toward this county, or tried to kill innocent people should be tortured on a weekly basis

This post was edited by rocky123465 on Jan 2 2010 11:48pm
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