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Aug 27 2009 01:25pm
Quote (wouldbe @ Mon, Aug 24 2009, 06:22am)
1)  it would take longer than 13 billion years from the singularity for mankind to evolve from rocks

2)  how our planet supports and sustains life is rather suspicious.  everything from how water recycles, to oxygen production, to the atmosphere's protection, it's all too coincidentally perfect.

objectively speaking, it would be more unbelieveable that there isn't a higher being who made it all.  everything about how the universe works suggests that it was designed to support life, somewhere.


What?
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Aug 27 2009 02:10pm
Quote (wouldbe @ Mon, Aug 24 2009, 08:22pm)
1)  it would take longer than 13 billion years from the singularity for mankind to evolve from rocks

2)  how our planet supports and sustains life is rather suspicious.  everything from how water recycles, to oxygen production, to the atmosphere's protection, it's all too coincidentally perfect.

objectively speaking, it would be more unbelieveable that there isn't a higher being who made it all.  everything about how the universe works suggests that it was designed to support life, somewhere.


Life evolved to suit the conditions. The conditions didnt evolve to suit life. Basics101.

And lol@behe

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Aug 27 2009 03:10pm
There are close to an infinite amount of spheres flying through the universe, many of them revolving around other spheres. So many possibilities for life, and currently we know only one single planet on which life has occurred. So, assuming this, the chance to have life on a planet is (1)/(close to infinite). That's close to zero. Exactly the chance which you would have given it.

And about the whole recycling thing: That is not coincidentally. Life has evolved influenced by the way oxygen and water and everything works. If these chemical processes would have been different, life would have evolved differently as well. That's just the way it goes; once life is actually possible, the organisms will adept to their environment.
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Aug 27 2009 03:42pm
Quote (Microbiologist @ Wed, 26 Aug 2009, 14:54)
Yet, you haven't seen, felt, touched any other life forms. Therefore, they don't exist.

cwutIdidthere?

You guys lack coherence.


I don't see how what you did there applies to me at all.
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Aug 28 2009 06:58pm
I think the chaos theory explains a bit of this.
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Quote (mRIUV @ Thu, Aug 27 2009, 04:10pm)
There are close to an infinite amount of spheres flying through the universe, many of them revolving around other spheres. So many possibilities for life, and currently we know only one single planet on which life has occurred. So, assuming this, the chance to have life on a planet is (1)/(close to infinite). That's close to zero. Exactly the chance which you would have given it.

And about the whole recycling thing: That is not coincidentally. Life has evolved influenced by the way oxygen and water and everything works. If these chemical processes would have been different, life would have evolved differently as well. That's just the way it goes; once life is actually possible, the organisms will adept to their environment.


Yeah im sure he understands this. but hes saying that all these "Chemical processes, ECT." can be looked at as a "Set-up" from another being/world.
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Quote (wouldbe @ Mon, Aug 24 2009, 10:22am)
1) it would take longer than 13 billion years from the singularity for mankind to evolve from rocks

2) how our planet supports and sustains life is rather suspicious. everything from how water recycles, to oxygen production, to the atmosphere's protection, it's all too coincidentally perfect.

objectively speaking, it would be more unbelieveable that there isn't a higher being who made it all. everything about how the universe works suggests that it was designed to support life, somewhere.


And how did "God" start existing ?

Seriously, the earth is the only planet we know that can support life and we know lots of planets, so it just happened that every factor to make life were here. It's not like every planet could support life. So, I mostly beleive in the randomness of things, and "chaos theory" explain it a bit.

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[QUOTE=wouldbe,Mon, Aug 24 2009, 10:22am]1)

2) how our planet supports and sustains life is rather suspicious. everything from how water recycles, to oxygen production, to the atmosphere's protection, it's all too coincidentally perfect.
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out of theoretically an infinite number of planets and solor system earth got lucky... and how do u know we didnt evolve from rocks? maybe some sateroid thats over 100 billion years old hit earth and some of w/e live was on it survived...

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Aug 30 2009 07:17am
ofc there is.... only retards think we came from pedo aids monkeys
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Aug 30 2009 07:55am

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... and how do u know we didnt evolve from rocks? ...


Perhaps because abiotic factors cannot become biotic?
Design demands a designer. It seems illogical to me to believe our universe and life as we know it "just happened"
The guy that posted earlier about the laws of thermodynamics is correct. The universe had a beginning and it will have an end. As for the Bible... has anyone ever proven it wrong? That's what science does after all, form a hypothesis and prove things wrong. Science can never be able to absolutely prove something to be true. That's where faith based on reason comes in.
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