Quote (Thor123422 @ Sep 5 2018 07:56pm)
The ozone hole isn't causing the greenhouse effect to any significant degree.
Right, That's what im saying, without the ozone hole, there is no greenhouse effects...
Do you guys not understand how the green house effect work and how its completely related and mutually inclusive to the ozone holes existence.
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The ozone hole aloud more UV rays through the atmosphere, which then become trapped inside the atmosphere. (this is called greenhouse effect)

The fact the Ozone hole has almost entirely closed now, in 2018, is true, its not debatable, its a FACT.
If the ozone hole is fixed, then the green house effect cannot increase, and therfore cannot "run-away" (fear word btw)
This is exactly what the green house effect is and how to fix it. By literal definition the world has done both identify the problem and then corrected it. (in under 40 years too I might add)
Proofs / evidences / citations supporting that in 2018 the ozone later is almost completely healed.
Source 1, The original study,
https://agupubs.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1002/2017GL074830Source 2,
https://svs.gsfc.nasa.gov/12816Source 3,
https://www.nasa.gov/feature/goddard/2018/nasa-study-first-direct-proof-of-ozone-hole-recovery-due-to-chemicals-ban-e2
Therefor, if we are still seeing weather shifts in a few hundred years, and the ozone layer remains solid the entire time, we can conclude, the cause must then be calendar slippage.
It is after all, the simplest answer to the problem of; Why is it hot in winter?
The alternative is, yes the hole is healed, but the damage was done, and it was already too late, and life on earth is doomed to a runaway greenhouse effect.
Like I said before, people have been screaming the end is nigh for like tens of thousands of years, and you know what never changes? The end is never nigh.
This post was edited by Ep0ch on Sep 5 2018 07:36pm