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Jul 13 2016 07:14pm
Quote (card_sultan @ Jul 13 2016 03:17pm)
Explain how the earth spins at 1000 mph , revolves around the sun at 66.600 mph, goes around the galaxy at 450,000 mph all while expanding into space some ungodly speed all in a certain direction, but that only means that the air is moving in that direction, but a plane doesn't need to account for that force no matter which direction it moves in
Because mph is a measure of speed, not acceleration. As usual hundreds of years behind the curve:

Quote (Galileo Galilei @ 1632)
any two observers moving at constant speed and direction with respect to one another will obtain the same results for all mechanical experiments


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Jul 13 2016 09:27pm
Quote (Azrad @ Jul 13 2016 08:14pm)
Because mph is a measure of speed, not acceleration. As usual hundreds of years behind the curve:


we've already established the earth is experiencing the physical meaning of "acceleration" - since the atmosphere moves exactly in sync with the earth - it is also experiencing acceleration Newton himself said F=Ma , that's a law right, so where the hell is the force - stop fooling yourself with circular logic - it's pretty caveman to not understand Newton.

Go make some Fire.

Quote (remco6 @ Jul 13 2016 07:17pm)
Idk but can can we have your liver then.


ok, you think you're a cannibal - plz take your meds.

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Quote (card_sultan @ Jul 13 2016 03:17pm)
Explain how the earth spins at 1000 mph , revolves around the sun at 66.600 mph, goes around the galaxy at 450,000 mph ...but a plane doesn't need to account for that force no matter which direction it moves in


I already did:
Quote (Azrad @ Jul 5 2016 02:11pm)
The problem with the above is these are velocities or speeds, which you are comparing to acceleration (gravity). To compare them we need to calculate the accelerations produced by these rotations:
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Earth's rotational velocity at equator: 1000 mph, in si units that is about 450 m/s.

centripetal acceleration: v^2/r

centripetal acceleration on Earth do to its rotation: {450 (m/s)}^2/{6,400,000 m}≈ 0.03 m/s^2, that is about 0.3% or about 1/300th of the acceleration produced by gravity (Earth to surface of Earth).
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Earth's orbital velocity (sun): 66,600mph -> 30,000 m/s

centripetal acceleration on Earth do to its orbit of sun: {30,000 m/s}^2/{1.5*10^11 m} ≈ 0.006 m/s^2, about 0.06% of the acceleration produced by gravity (Earth to surface of Earth)
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Earth's orbital velocity (around galactic core): 450,000 mph - > 230,000 m/s (I think the actual rate is a bit larger, but this is in the right ballpark).

centripetal acceleration on Earth do to its galactic orbit: {230,000 m/s}^2/{2.5 * 10^20 m} ≈2*10^(-10) m/s^2, a ridiculously small number.


That is why you don't have to account for those accelerations when you are flying a plane, that are so tiny it is extremely difficult to even detect them.

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Jul 14 2016 01:48am
Quote (Azrad @ Jul 13 2016 11:39pm)
I already did:


That is why you don't have to account for those accelerations when you are flying a plane, that are so tiny it is extremely difficult to even detect them.


yeah i've shown these calculations before and he just ignores them and complains later about the same thing without retaining any information
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Jul 14 2016 02:28am
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yeah i've shown these calculations before and he just ignores them and complains later about the same thing without retaining any information

Factory reset defense mechanism.
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Jul 14 2016 04:50am
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yeah i've shown these calculations before and he just ignores them and complains later about the same thing without retaining any information


ok, I play along what are the calculation a plane output must make to account for those forces?
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Jul 14 2016 06:19am
Quote (MaliceMizer @ Jun 16 2016 08:05am)
Everything we call real is made up of things that cannot be real & what you assume was known about magnetism was not, until now.




http://i.imgur.com/uT8oD0W.png



In this, I do not hope to rectify the existence of any deity or supreme being.
but
If one could suppose nothing exploded into something,
then one might equally suppose that something imploded into nothing.


Points I hope to cover:
>Nothing matter
>Physics field definition
>the "magnet" isn't a magnet, it's an electrified dielectric object
>electron microscopes are bogus
>cagliostro & egyptian rite of freemasonry
>ferrofluid
>Tesla and/or Einstein
>Ether
>magnetic geometry and/or you
>magnetic geometry and/or physics
>domain wall and/or the blotch wall
>The missing secrets of XYZ-axis spatial-counterspatial geometry & flat earth controlled opposition
>64bit flower of life & star of david
>Photoelectric lie corrected
>Ownership of gravity and the weightless 50lb weight
>The rectification of mathematics





http://i.imgur.com/1xwXIxh.png
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/1kKkRtVlwrM/maxresdefault.jpg


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tbruPR3o0Zc


I fucking hate magnetism because it is so complicated, but I want to learn but I'm too impatient
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Jul 14 2016 06:45am
Quote (wizkid @ Jul 14 2016 05:19am)
I fucking hate magnetism because it is so complicated, but I want to learn but I'm too impatient


Well you should start with a credible source:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NK-BxowMIfg
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Jul 14 2016 07:47am
Don't ever learn about Quantum entanglement theories if you want to believe in Gravity 100% though.
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Jul 14 2016 02:25pm
Quote (card_sultan @ Jul 14 2016 06:47am)
Don't ever learn about Quantum entanglement theories if you want to believe in Gravity 100% though.
I believe in gravity 100% because I feel it, every second of every day. I accept the mathematical models of gravity because they make predictions which match observation. Some day those models will fail and need to be revamped, but even then we will still feel gravity every second of every day.

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