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Jul 5 2016 05:20pm
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Man it seems to boil down to you not accepting that gravity can exert a different amount of force to different objects depending on mass

But the magical thing that moves everything down with the same speed if it doesn't have air resistance can?
Or are you saying this new thing doesn't effect air etc, in which case whats so special about air it's composed of the same elementary particles as other matter just spread out more


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Jul 5 2016 05:24pm
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4eJg6WhAS_M


this video is literally nothing
it makes no point
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Jul 5 2016 05:28pm
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this video is literally nothing
it makes no point


Just that atheist's will believe the most incredible shit just to not believe in any kind of higher power. Video is actually hilarious for those that get the joke.

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Jul 5 2016 05:30pm
im agnostic as all logical people should be as no definite proof has been provided either way
gravity is real its not a leap of faith
im not having this argument again tho
just wanted to point out your nothing video
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Jul 5 2016 05:32pm
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im agnostic as all logical people should be as no definite proof has been provided either way
gravity is real its not a leap of faith
im not having this argument again tho
just wanted to point out your nothing video


I'm agnostic too - I'm talking about complete atheists who say there is no God and are nothing short of a portrait of buttrage anger if anyone even question Gravity or points out that it is full of illogical fallacies.
If you are actually agnostic - youd have some part of you that believes in a higher power - somewhere in between being a complete bible thumper and believing that a higher power is complete fantasy.

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im agnostic as all logical people should be as no definite proof has been provided either way
gravity is real its not a leap of faith
im not having this argument again tho
just wanted to point out your nothing video

This
Even consider myself sort of modern religious
But it's also good to have faith in the millennia of human scientific inquiry that came before you. Rather than going back to basics and thinking about how things should be based on what you experience.
You'll never get anywhere if you constantly throw out all the stepping stones it took to get to this point
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Jul 5 2016 05:49pm
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Even consider myself sort of modern religious
But it's also good to have faith in the millennia of human scientific inquiry that came before you. Rather than going back to basics and thinking about how things should be based on what you experience.
You'll never get anywhere if you constantly throw out all the stepping stones it took to get to this point


There was actually debate about this before Nasa said it went to the Moon, I've seen a ton of evidence that suggest Nasa fakes absolutely everything. You really need to separate theories from Nasa fakery and not think you need to throw out all of science - believing in gravity or not - absolutly nothing will change - except people might be nicer and not complete wastes of skin. Faith has been in decline ever since Nasa was created.

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Jul 5 2016 05:51pm
Science is evolution in knowlage but much better than species evolution, we get to keep what's past and can go in multiple direction along every step
People have built this up over time from the very basics and it gets checked/tested by others at every step
But trying to destory all the central knowlage without any proof when we've come so far seems silly
You'll just build a different tree but then someone else will come say they want it all different again

You realise our technology is based on science right? Computers don't work without transisters which uses quantum mechanics, tv's using quantum dots now, far along from gravity! if our scientific evolution was so wrong our technological evolution wouldn't be nearly as good
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Jul 5 2016 05:54pm
Quote (dakariii @ Jul 5 2016 06:51pm)
Science is evolution in knowlage but much better than species evolution, we get to keep what's past and can go in multiple direction along every step
People have built this up over time from the very basics and it gets checked/tested by others at every step
But trying to destory all the central knowlage without any proof when we've come so far seems silly
You'll just build a different tree but then someone else will come say they want it all different again

You realise our technology is based on science right? Computers don't work without transisters which uses quantum mechanics, tv's using quantum dots now, far along from gravity! if our scientific evolution was so wrong our technological evolution wouldn't be nearly as good


exactly - 99.5% of science is not based on the complete Faith of gravity.
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Jul 5 2016 05:54pm
Quote (card_sultan @ 6 Jul 2016 00:29)
How can you ignore accelerations if we need a magical force to defy them but a simple hot air balloon or the force of touching something offers enough force or strength to resist it?

If Newton said F = MA, but the resistance of said force can be achieved with an almost imperceivable amount of resistance - how can you still believe in the force. You're trying to use science to prove something but dont realize in the same breath your actually disproving it and just convincing yourself of that which makes no sense.


card_potter the almighty can (WITH 1 FINGER LADIES AND GENTLEMEN!) defeat gravity!

and for his next trick he will jump and stay suspended for as long as he wants! :thumbsup:



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