objects of increasing mass dont have stronger pulls, only in your mind they do. Take two objects into space - where supposedly there is no gravity ( or "microgravity" as those kids at Nasa call it - as if that an actual thing) - one item much bigger than the other - and they will not attract each other, not even a bit.




So if Newton said F = MA , and Earth has a mass and is experiencing all these forms of acceleration and Gravity is the force that negates all that and keeps all the water and earth held to the earth, how is it clouds and hot air can completely resist this force - your just blinding yourself to the truth, but i can see your trying to work it out - you'll get there.

This post was edited by card_sultan on Jul 5 2016 04:26pm

It's you who doesn't understand about F=ma. the gravity from the sun essential acts on all the particles of the earth/us with the same force, but because the earth is composed of a lot more matter it experience a far greater overall force. We as individuals don't need to experience that total force to go around at the same speed, all we need is the acceleration which is inversely proportion to our mass a=F/m.

You might think of these massive circles and speeds but the forces involved aren't that great, we're already moving at the high speed required to make the long trip and all that's needed is the acceleration towards the center required to change the angle we're moving at by 360 over a long time.

The acceleration from the earth might be a lot compaired to the other ones we experience but as we are relatively small/light the total force on us isn't that much, so yes a hot air balloon is enough to counter this force and provide a reverse acceleration
If you wanted to make a hot air balloon to move the earth out of orbit around the sun that would be a different story. Even though the acceleration is much less the earth's mass is much lager still so the force required is ridiculous more.

As for expanding into the universe that happened 13 billion years ago, there is a difference between velocity and acceleration, also that's the universe expanding not us moving through space at that speed which would case problems (even in a near vacuum there's a few particles around etc which causes issues at relativistic speeds)

Rain and boiling water really confused you this much? You poor thing.
Water vapour is less dense than dry air. Helium is also lighter than air. Previos posts you claim Gravity is just mass and buoyancy and yet you don't understand those concepts ?

youve almost got it :

mass and density ----->real

invisible force of gravity ------>not real

so the mass of the earth x all four different speeds of that acceleration is just an insignificant amount? Really? - That's some assume math you must be using , that or Brain Farts are an actual thing.

This post was edited by card_sultan on Jul 5 2016 04:53pm

What attracts the heavier substance / object to earth ? No the force of down isn't an answer.

This post was edited by remco6 on Jul 5 2016 04:54pm

Things falling to earth is not some magical proof of gravity, why does hot air resist this force - it is only because of density and the fact there is no gravity. If gravity were real, simply heating up some air wouldnt alllow it to resist the strength of gravity. And if th theory of gravity was actually true - Global warming ought to heat up the oceans and air enough so that the entire mass of it all should be leaving the Earth behind any second, so waiting for that.....

I'm sorry a lifetime of indoctrination can't make you see this, and a few minutes of actually thinking about this will only get you to regurgitate that which you were taught.

This post was edited by card_sultan on Jul 5 2016 05:03pm

no the force on the earth is a lot because it's heavy, the force on us isn't because we're light
tired to explain it in as simple terms as possible don't know what else i can do

you need to understand about scale/inverse proportionality, and basic physics/mechanics i'm afraid!

So now we're going to get into mechanics to prove Gravity since you're starting to see the hoax of logic- Astro priests around the world are outraged.

You're simply stated assumptions that you need to believe in gravity and projecting that shit onto me.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychological_projection

stop with your strawman.

This post was edited by card_sultan on Jul 5 2016 05:11pm

Man it seems to boil down to you not accepting that gravity can exert a different amount of force to different objects depending on mass

But the magical thing that moves everything down with the same speed if it doesn't have air resistance can?
Or are you saying this new thing doesn't effect air etc, in which case whats so special about air it's composed of the same elementary particles as other matter just spread out more