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Jul 5 2016 01:28pm
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Well it is funny if you know the source. The meme could be referring to himself on 4/6 pics.
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lol posted it so many times and he just changes the subject every time.

OP reminds me of something Kurt Vonnegut wrote in Mother Night



That's card to a tee rofl.
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Jul 5 2016 01:43pm
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Well it is funny if you know the source. The meme could be referring to himself on 4/6 pics.



That's card to a tee rofl.


Except im not the idiot who doesnt believe the assumption that gravity is a magical force that holds all the water and air in place while we spin at 1000 mph , rotate around the sun at 66,600mph and spiral around the milky way galaxy at 450,000 mph while we expand into the universe at the speed of light but a simple hot air balloon is stronger than all that force. :wacko:

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Except im not the idiot


Hold it right there buddy :lol:
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Except im not the idiot who doesnt believe the assumption that gravity is a magical force that holds all the water and air in place while we spin at 1000 mph , rotate around the sun at 66,600mph and spiral around the milky way galaxy at 450,000 mph while we expand into the universe at the speed of light but a simple hot air balloon is stronger than all that force. :wacko:


A lot to take in at once especially when your operating at a 1+1 level.

The earth resting on the back of the great turtle is far simpler and comforting.
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A lot to take in at once especially when your operating at a 1+1 level.

The earth resting on the back of the great turtle is far simpler and comforting.


Who said the earth was resting on a turtle - I'm not a hopi Indian - but you are a gravtard convinced by the guy who spent most of his life thinking there was a way to turn coal into gold.
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Except im not the idiot who doesnt believe the assumption that gravity is a magical force that holds all the water and air in place while we spin at 1000 mph , rotate around the sun at 66,600mph and spiral around the milky way galaxy at 450,000 mph while we expand into the universe at the speed of light but a simple hot air balloon is stronger than all that force.
The problem with the above is these are velocities or speeds, which you are comparing to acceleration (gravity). To compare them we need to calculate the accelerations produced by these rotations:
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Earth's rotational velocity at equator: 1000 mph, in si units that is about 450 m/s.

centripetal acceleration: v^2/r

centripetal acceleration on Earth do to its rotation: {450 (m/s)}^2/{6,400,000 m}≈ 0.03 m/s^2, that is about 0.3% or about 1/300th of the acceleration produced by gravity (Earth to surface of Earth).
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Earth's orbital velocity (sun): 66,600mph -> 30,000 m/s

centripetal acceleration on Earth do to its orbit of sun: {30,000 m/s}^2/{1.5*10^11 m} ≈ 0.006 m/s^2, about 0.06% of the acceleration produced by gravity (Earth to surface of Earth)
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Earth's orbital velocity (around galactic core): 450,000 mph - > 230,000 m/s (I think the actual rate is a bit larger, but this is in the right ballpark).

centripetal acceleration on Earth do to its galactic orbit: {230,000 m/s}^2/{2.5 * 10^20 m} ≈ 2*10^(-10) m/s^2, a ridiculously small number.
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So the 3 velocities you mentioned give rise to an acceleration (when summed, but I'll give you the benefit of the doubt here) of less than half of 1% of the acceleration associated with gravity near the surface of the planet (about 10 m/s^2). This is why these accelerations are typically ignored on back of the envelope calculations. This is also why you can't feel them, but you can feel gravity (you know, the thing you say does not exist).
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Jul 5 2016 03:19pm
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Who said the earth was resting on a turtle - I'm not a hopi Indian - but you are a gravtard convinced by the guy who spent most of his life thinking there was a way to turn coal into gold.



Well you can't prove it isn't resting on the back of a turtle or 7 pillars or "insert ludicrous assumption", seems like a good as explanation as any.

If it works and is logical and can explain and predict 99.9% of things we see and do on a daily basis it's good enough for me. I'm not the one obsessed with wishing there was some grand conspiracy.
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The problem with the above is these are velocities or speeds, which you are comparing to acceleration (gravity). To compare them we need to calculate the accelerations produced by these rotations:
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Earth's rotational velocity at equator: 1000 mph, in si units that is about 450 m/s.

centripetal acceleration: v^2/r

centripetal acceleration on Earth do to its rotation: {450 (m/s)}^2/{6,400,000 m}≈ 0.03 m/s^2, that is about 0.3% or about 1/300th of the acceleration produced by gravity (Earth to surface of Earth).
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Earth's orbital velocity (sun): 66,600mph -> 30,000 m/s

centripetal acceleration on Earth do to its orbit of sun: {30,000 m/s}^2/{1.5*10^11 m} ≈ 0.006 m/s^2, about 0.06% of the acceleration produced by gravity (Earth to surface of Earth)
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Earth's orbital velocity (around galactic core): 450,000 mph - > 230,000 m/s (I think the actual rate is a bit larger, but this is in the right ballpark).

centripetal acceleration on Earth do to its galactic orbit: {230,000 m/s}^2/{2.5 * 10^20 m} ≈2*10^(-10) m/s^2, a ridiculously small number.
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So the 3 velocities you mentioned give rise to an acceleration (when summed, but I'll give you the benefit of the doubt here) of less than half of 1% of the acceleration associated with gravity near the surface of the planet (about 10 m/s^2). This is why these accelerations are typically ignored on back of the envelope calculations. This is also why you can't feel them, but you can feel gravity (you know, the thing you say does not exist).


How can you ignore accelerations if we need a magical force to defy them but a simple hot air balloon or the force of touching something offers enough force or strength to resist it?

If Newton said F = MA, but the resistance of said force can be achieved with an almost imperceivable amount of resistance - how can you still believe in the force. You're trying to use science to prove something but dont realize in the same breath your actually disproving it and just convincing yourself of that which makes no sense.

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How can you ignore accelerations if we need a magical force to defy them but a simple hot air balloon or the force of touching something offers enough force tor strength to resist it

If Newton said F = MA, but the resistance of said force can be achieved with an almost imperceivable amount of resistance - how can you still believe in the force. Your trying to use science to prove something but dont realize in the same breath your actually disproving it and just convincing yourself of that which makes no sense.


Explain why objects of increasing mass have stronger pulls

Gravity

it isn't God's will thats keeps you on the surface

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Jul 5 2016 03:50pm
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If Newton said F = MA, but the resistance of said force can be achieved with an almost imperceivable amount of resistance - how can you still believe in the force.
What you are saying is gibberish. If by that you mean, how can a small force cancel a larger force? It can't.

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How can you ignore accelerations
You mean buoyancy and the normal force? Sorry those are not 'magical' by any stretch. High school physics topics at best.
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