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Mar 8 2017 03:51pm
Quote (Ep0ch @ Mar 8 2017 09:52am)
All evidence, experiments, accounts, proofs, logic, and senses that contradict this are false. .[/I]


Name any experiment that people can do that proves the earth is a sphere?

What sense tells you the Earth is a sphere? Does it smell like a ball? Does the wind whisper to you that it's a ball? Do you eat grass and it screams it's from a ball earth? Do you feel the earth moving?

What account do you have the Earth is a ball - a few Masonic Astro-nots that are sworn liars?

Have you seen the press conference they gave when they came back - they just made the most incredible journey in the history of mankind and it the looks like they just robbed a bank and you knew about it.

Have you seen Neil Armstrong - who refused to talk to the press give his one speech where he call the other astro-nots parrot who can't fly and said discoveries await once you remove truths protective layer - wtf - why are you been protected from the truth - i thought you knew it all?

Water is always level and 70% of the earth is water, land raises from there, the earth does not move - that's all your logic and senses tell you.

All you have is silly illogical rhetoric and a fake picture from Nasa and some numbers that say something and pure rage if someone doesn't believe it.

Saying you dont believe me is not the same as disproving anything i've said.

And saying that no one believes me is false as well cause the last poll even on jsp said almost 50% dont believe the Earth is a sphere and Geocentricity is growing everyday, its been growing for 2 years and no one has been able to debunk it, just rage and name call it you dont blindly accept Helios.

This post was edited by card_sultan on Mar 8 2017 04:03pm
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Mar 8 2017 04:03pm
I have named dozens.
I won't repeat myself because you fail to read or accept facts / expriment / the scientific method.

#YuSoTriggerd

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Mar 8 2017 04:16pm
Quote (Ep0ch @ Mar 8 2017 12:03pm)
I have named dozens.
I won't repeat myself because you fail to read or accept facts / expriment / the scientific method.

#YuSoTriggerd


Lol - thinks he named dozens - hasn't named any because there are none.

All you've done is talked about your faith that ships going over the horizon and other silly ideas are proof the Earth is a ball - when that is easily shown not true at all.

You've spent hours trying to prove me wrong, but only succeeded in stating your faith in things that are shown to be false.

I could post a 10 minute video - but you won't watch it - preferring to fight with me for another week.

your exactly like every kid i meet -probably about 18 and sure he knows everything ever.

Why don't you watch that Neil Armstrong video or the Nasa press conference of the returning moon landing crew and tell me what you think?

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Mar 8 2017 05:23pm
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no matter where you are on a sphere - the math shows that your perspective is always going down.

you dont need to look down to see the horizon.

http://s.hswstatic.com/gif/train-2.jpg

Are these two lines completely parallel and flat?

yes.

They only appear to be converging at the vanishing point because of perspective

The math is completely real and it proves that what we see IRL is not congruent with the math of a sphere - this is why it is never taught and why even the Great NDT didnt know it at all.


It is correct that the horizon on a sphere is "down." But "down" in this sense is imperceptible to the human eye due to the incredible scale involved. We are literally talking about fractions of a degree. You still didn't answer what you think that picture "proves." You still haven't explained what "Pythagorean math" is. I know what the Pythagorean theorem is, but I'm interested in this new term you've invented.

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wrong, wrong, wrong , wrong, wrong , wrong wrong , wrong, wrong , just because you found a stupid excuse to cling to doesnt debunk anything, are you claiming to be a scientist now too?, Einstein never proved anything, he just did some fantasy math without real life experiments and therefore the two have no correlation - you've just been been spoon feed propaganda. What math or experiment did Einstein do that proved the aether did not exist? Why do they say 95% of "Space" is dark energy or matter but they dont even have a clue what it is, i guess they forgot about the aether :wacko:


Right, right, right, etc...

Einstein's special relativity disproves ether. And there are also many tests that all confirm the validity of special relativity to high degrees of accuracy: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tests_of_special_relativity

Quote (tard_sultan @ Mar 5 2017 12:06pm)
wrong again, down is down, up is up - i think you need to re watch sesame street.


90 degrees is level. 89.99 degrees is down.

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So were falling at 500,000 mph and not wobbling? even the slightest? Ok go up in an airplane a drop a bucket full of water and tell me how it doesn't wobble.

Explain what keeps this lake so level but were falling in a spiral motion at 500,000mph , um ok.


Wobbling on our own axis, as is well known. Wobbling from resistance to our movement? Not in the slightest. There is nothing but dust in our path.

I'm sorry you can't grasp simple physics. It just blows my mind that you feel the need to argue physics with people who do.

Quote (tard_sultan @ Mar 5 2017 12:06pm)
See this is your problem - you dont even know what down or up is probably because the earth is actually flat


Take an egg. Lay it on the table. Let it settle on its "side." Draw a line from the top to the pointiest end of the egg. There's your mythical "11 mile uphill rise" explained.

Quote (tard_sultan @ Mar 5 2017 12:06pm)
if the atmosphere moves with the planet and the planet is going in a certain direction, then airplanes going in the opposite direction would need to resist the air moving at up to 1000 mph just to account for earth's daily spin , and not even mentioning the 66,600 mph orbit and the 500,000 mph spiral around the galaxy.

because we need to take baby steps for baby minds. :baby:


Clearly airplanes are too much for you. Maybe you should take the baby step or wrapping your tiny mind around the moving 500,000 mph part first before worrying about 500 mph airspeed? Or the 66,000 mph part even? I mean, we can observe Mars' orbit and measure solar distances and shit. We even put several objects onto Mars that send us information about the planet. Is the solar system blasting away the surface of Mars when it's clearly observable moving ~54,000 mph? It must if your worldview were to hold true.

Quote (tard_sultan @ Mar 5 2017 12:06pm)
Surveyor's proved it's a straight line , in your silly theory , you think it's a curve line so it would be higher in the middle and this is just not true - so more lies, misunderstanding and poor excuses. :bonk:

God grief, another post of your shitty lies to go over , why is it so easy to see through your nonsense?


No, surveyors may have proven that the path is the most direct over the surface, but it is not a straight line.



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Mar 8 2017 05:40pm
Quote (tard_sultan @ Mar 5 2017 12:48pm)
constant course corrections , lol of course they dont need to - talk to a private pilot dude.


Why would I talk to a private pilot when I have my own direct experience with great circle navigation? I have witnessed the course corrections, and watched the quartermaster in charge of navigation plot the shortest route to target.

Quote (tard_sultan @ Mar 5 2017 12:48pm)
to bad redshift does not actually exist :(


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Quote (tard_sultan @ Mar 5 2017 12:48pm)
There is no headwind because the planet does not move, how can you not understand this - it relative speed is zero. :bonk:


We are talking about how things are on a globe Earth, stupid.

Quote (tard_sultan @ Mar 5 2017 12:48pm)
You can fire a gun or cannon straight up and the projectile will fall back down and might even hit you if there is no wind, this shouldn't happen if the earth is spinning , orbiting, and spiraling at breakneck speeds.


Of course it can hit you with the Earth spinning. I gave you extreme examples of when it might miss. It's like you flat out ignored having Foucault's pendulum shoved in your face.

Quote (tard_sultan @ Mar 5 2017 12:48pm)
still waiting for you to actually disprove things - all you offer are poor excuses that you have faith in and demand people believe them even though they are provable false.


First of all, I have proven the Earth isn't flat, by showing photographic and video evidence to that effect. I have also disproven so very many of your points. The only way you're going to get away with calling even a single one of them a "poor excuse" is if you manage to PROVE it's a poor excuse.

Quote (tard_sultan @ Mar 5 2017 12:48pm)
So now you are claiming sound waves break the "fake speed of sound" and sound travels faster in one direction then it does the other - holy crap - what a whopper!

right because of buoyancy and density , not "gravity"


Argument from incredulity. I mean really, your entire premise behind defying the true ball Earth is an argument from incredulity writ large. http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Argument_from_incredulity

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The argument from incredulity is a logical fallacy that occurs when someone decides that something did not happen, because they cannot personally understand how it could happen.
The fallacy is an argument from ignorance and an informal fallacy.


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Logic escapes the ignorant.
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Quote (card_sultan @ Mar 8 2017 12:35pm)
All you've done here is explain the Helio indoctrinated version of Earth you've been taught.

If were are told that the air is relative to earth and it's not the type of relative in a car because the air in a car is relative because it is in a closed environment , earth is not surrounded by a solid structure, you've seen all the photos from NASA, we've sent missions to the moon, we've sent satellites to mars. Do you see any solid structure surrounding Earth? We are told its relative because the earth's gravity is sucking it in
and that would make the air have force. If the air had a force to it in a certain direction it would would need to be resisted if you tried to fly through it and pushing things along as you flew with it.

See your doing is saying is there is the way things are - and therefore science is correct.
What i am saying is the way things are and what science tells us to think dont match up.

Ok - look at this - if i am in a car - and it is moving - my body can tell - it's called motion awareness
When we go into a curve - i can feel the momentum pushing me to the side - If were are orbiting around the sun at 66,600 mph and no one feels anything? Lakes can be perfectly still on both sides of the earth as it spins at 1000 mph?

I bought into Nasa lies for a long time, I'm glad i woke up to exactly how stupid it is.


It's unfortunate how unwilling you are to consider viewpoints other than your own or even attempt to learn something, especially for such a self-proclaimed "open-minded and enlightened person". If you took the 5 minutes to go through my thought exercise, there's a good chance you would understand relative motion a little better. Your ignorance is both a cause and a result of your attitude.
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