Cars are normally a closed environment, unless it's a convertible and the air flow above the windshield will not be relative


So astronauts needed to smash through the thinning air into no air, perhaps they should make cars and planes out of this thinning air , you should fire off an email to Ford and tell them of your genius theory.

As for just repeating things you have any proof this is just copy pasta or is it just another ridiculous assumption on your part?

This post was edited by card_sultan on Mar 7 2017 11:10pm

Cars are effected by friction, air resistance, type of road, is it icey, is it dry? is it gravel?, The air temp / humidity, how strong the wind is, is it raining? (just to name a few external variables.)

There are literally hundreds of variables that are external forces on a car.


The earth is not a vacuum and it has gravity.


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you just keep proving how you do not understand these concepts.


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I hope you sleep well. I know I will.

This post was edited by Ep0ch on Mar 7 2017 11:12pm

This is proof we are talking about completely different things , i am just talking about the air inside the car being relative, you are talking about external forces that would affect the speed of the car.

And if gravity was pulling the air around the Earth in a direction at 1000 mph - there would be a huge external force you would need to account for - there is no force of a 1000 mph wind.

The air is only relative to the Earth because the Earth is not moving. Sorry to break it to you.

Btw, there is no Santa Clause either.

This post was edited by card_sultan on Mar 7 2017 11:19pm

explain atomic clock desync experiment. Oh wait let me guess. Lies and propaganda.

This post was edited by Ep0ch on Mar 7 2017 11:32pm

The air is not moving at all relative to the Earth either. Relative to the Earth, the atmosphere is completely stationary and does not move (aside from local air currents, winds, etc). It works exactly like the air in an airplane, only it's kept in place by gravity instead of a hollow aluminum shell.

Does a hollow aluminum shell suck the air to to it or does it simply keep it relative by keeping it in a closed environment.
Thats a big difference.

http://physics.stackexchange.com/questions/1193/why-does-the-atmosphere-rotate-along-with-the-earth

Q: I was reading somewhere about a really cheap way of travelling: using balloons to get ourselves away from the surface of the earth. The idea held that because the earth rotates, we should be able to land in a different place after some time. As we all know, this doesn't happen.

Someone said that the reason why this doesn't happen is because the atmosphere (air, clouds etc.) also revolves around the earth (with the same angular velocity as the earth's rotation). Since we are also part of the atmosphere, our position doesn't change relatively.

Well, I'm not convinced with that answer. Why does the atmosphere rotate along with earth? Gravitational force is towards the centre of the earth, but I don't see how it's making the atmosphere rotate.

A: The atmosphere rotates along with the Earth for the same reason you do.

This is why you can simply go up in a hot air balloon for 4 hours and travel 4000 miles - because they say the atmosphere moves with the spin of the earth

But if the earth is spinning and the gravity is keeping all the air stuck to it and and Nasa can fly to Mars it is not a closed environment but planes can travel in any direction and never need to account for any difference in force - it is simply not possible.

This is where the circle jerk logic comes in and science just confuses you, you cant have it both ways, either the air is moving or its not - if the air is not moving but the earth is spinning, then we should travel 4000 miles in 4 hours in a balloon but if it is moving in a direction then airplane travel in the opposite direction would need to resist this force

This is why if you ask most people about this issue they just repeat what they are taught - that the air is relative and if you ask them does that mean its moving in a direction - there like "waaaaaaaaaaaaaa"?

The only reasonable logical answer to this is that the Earth doesn't move and once the light goes off in your head, everything will make sense.

This post was edited by card_sultan on Mar 8 2017 01:15am

Triggered.

Try this thought exercise:
Let's say a boy is standing on some imaginary planet somewhere that is exactly identical to the one proposed by modern science. It's spherical, has an atmosphere, gravity is real, etc. The boy is holding a balloon that's floating above his head. Since the air is moving along with the planet at 1000 miles an hour, would you expect the balloon to be getting hit by 1000 mph wind? Would the boy have to hold on to it for dear life as its getting ripped out of his hands? Would the boy himself feel 1000 mph wind pushing him?

After a few minutes the boy's attention wanders and his fingers relax, letting go of the balloon's string. The balloon is now floating and not attached to anything. Would you expect it to suddenly fly away from the boy at supersonic speeds as the planet rotates under it, or stay floating near the boy and slowly drift away? If you think it stays floating nearby, let's say the boy gets annoyed and hits it lightly with his hand, in an attempt to send it flying a couple feet against the rotation of the atmosphere. Would the balloon suddenly experience a massive force preventing it from moving that way? What if the boy hit it in the opposite direction, would the balloon suddenly experience a massive force pushing it along and fly off at supersonic speed? Why would a floating balloon not experience any force at all, but a balloon that gets moved ever so slightly suddenly get hit by hurricane winds that can't be felt by the boy right next to it?

This post was edited by russian on Mar 8 2017 09:06am

All you've done here is explain the Helio indoctrinated version of Earth you've been taught.

If were are told that the air is relative to earth and it's not the type of relative in a car because the air in a car is relative because it is in a closed environment , earth is not surrounded by a solid structure, you've seen all the photos from NASA, we've sent missions to the moon, we've sent satellites to mars. Do you see any solid structure surrounding Earth? We are told its relative because the earth's gravity is sucking it in
and that would make the air have force. If the air had a force to it in a certain direction it would would need to be resisted if you tried to fly through it and pushing things along as you flew with it.

See your doing is saying is there is the way things are - and therefore science is correct.
What i am saying is the way things are and what science tells us to think dont match up.

Ok - look at this - if i am in a car - and it is moving - my body can tell - it's called motion awareness
When we go into a curve - i can feel the momentum pushing me to the side - If were are orbiting around the sun at 66,600 mph and no one feels anything? Lakes can be perfectly still on both sides of the earth as it spins at 1000 mph?

I bought into Nasa lies for a long time, I'm glad i woke up to exactly how stupid it is.

So,
the earth is flat, it is motionless, it is a closed environment, that is not effected by any external variables, it is the center/bottom of the universe, and everything in the universe exists in a 3d ascending plane directly above the earth.
All evidence, experiments, accounts, proofs, logic, and senses that contradict this are false. .

How are they false?
Because, they are false.

Well, that's one solid argument, its amazing you managed to convince no one that you are correct.

This post was edited by Ep0ch on Mar 8 2017 02:10pm