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Aug 20 2016 07:32am
Quote (dakariii @ Aug 20 2016 08:26am)
it's an example of what a computer can do in a limited time given the desired result


too bad you don't see all the time the humans put into making that even possible for it to do, but yeah lets give all credit to the program not the programmers.

just look at machines actually designed to walk in the real world....it wasn't as easy as that video made it look when the hardware isn't just a computer model.
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Aug 20 2016 08:19am
well lets not separate hardware form software for now

and the program is easy enough, simple physics/moving parts, i did this sort of thing is highschool

it's just a case of defining what you want it to (move to a point) and get it to make iterations, then just stick with the ones the perform the task most efficiently

and yes programs require programmers..it's clever but the ridiculously fast evolution of computer models makes this possible
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Quote (ROM @ Aug 2 2016 11:23am)
I have a growing interest in the topic. If there is any required reads or starting points you guys would like to share, please feel free to do so.

What is the actual challenge in artificial intelligence today?


Are you looking for artificial intelligence because you were not gifted with natural intelligence?

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Quote (dakariii @ Aug 20 2016 08:19am)
well lets not separate hardware form software for now

and the program is easy enough, simple physics/moving parts, i did this sort of thing is highschool

it's just a case of defining what you want it to (move to a point) and get it to make iterations, then just stick with the ones the perform the task most efficiently

and yes programs require programmers..it's clever but the ridiculously fast evolution of computer models makes this possible


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Quote (Thor123422 @ Aug 21 2016 07:32am)
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great opinion, care to elaborate
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Aug 21 2016 08:37pm
Quote (dakariii @ Aug 21 2016 05:44am)
great opinion, care to elaborate


Your post literally made almost no fucking sense...

I will attempt to clarify some of it maybe...

The programming is not the most difficult thing in the world, for a programmer, because of something called "deep learning." If you don't know what it is, check it out. Now that the neural networks that are used in deep learning have grown to the exponential complexity and utility that they once were, AI and visual recognition have a limitless number of possibilities.

True "Artificial Intelligence" is the ability for a computer to function and "learn." This is coming in a real way, especially when you can "easily" program a security system to identify only cats on your yard to activity sprinklers...This was tested to diversify cats in both daylight and nighttime from raccoons, squirrels, dogs, people, etc.

But honestly, your post might've made me a little dumber just now.

/e What I mean by "learn" is to show hundreds of thousands of images to a program and have it learn to distinguish the features of different animals, etc. This is the same type of idea for facial recognition, and other visual learning for computers.

This post was edited by ttdskann on Aug 21 2016 08:39pm
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Your post literally made almost no fucking sense...

I will attempt to clarify some of it maybe...

The programming is not the most difficult thing in the world, for a programmer, because of something called "deep learning." If you don't know what it is, check it out. Now that the neural networks that are used in deep learning have grown to the exponential complexity and utility that they once were, AI and visual recognition have a limitless number of possibilities.

True "Artificial Intelligence" is the ability for a computer to function and "learn." This is coming in a real way, especially when you can "easily" program a security system to identify only cats on your yard to activity sprinklers...This was tested to diversify cats in both daylight and nighttime from raccoons, squirrels, dogs, people, etc.

But honestly, your post might've made me a little dumber just now.

/e What I mean by "learn" is to show hundreds of thousands of images to a program and have it learn to distinguish the features of different animals, etc. This is the same type of idea for facial recognition, and other visual learning for computers.


that actually does exist now
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Aug 21 2016 10:03pm
Quote (kalelvszod @ Aug 22 2016 12:00am)
that actually does exist now


If you looked up "deep learning" you would know that this is indeed correct.
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Quote (ttdskann @ Aug 22 2016 12:03am)
If you looked up "deep learning" you would know that this is indeed correct.


i didnt i just heard something similar to it on the radio the other day. i think it was related to those driverless cars that will be coming out
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Quote (ttdskann @ Aug 22 2016 02:37am)
Your post literally made almost no fucking sense...

I will attempt to clarify some of it maybe...

The programming is not the most difficult thing in the world, for a programmer, because of something called "deep learning." If you don't know what it is, check it out. Now that the neural networks that are used in deep learning have grown to the exponential complexity and utility that they once were, AI and visual recognition have a limitless number of possibilities.

True "Artificial Intelligence" is the ability for a computer to function and "learn." This is coming in a real way, especially when you can "easily" program a security system to identify only cats on your yard to activity sprinklers...This was tested to diversify cats in both daylight and nighttime from raccoons, squirrels, dogs, people, etc.

But honestly, your post might've made me a little dumber just now.

/e What I mean by "learn" is to show hundreds of thousands of images to a program and have it learn to distinguish the features of different animals, etc. This is the same type of idea for facial recognition, and other visual learning for computers.

what the hell are you guys on about, i'm talking about iteration based evolution and you're are acting like i'm talking another language

when we can accurately define what it means to make decisions this will super seed the actual methods like deep learning

using your basic example sure you can program a computer to know what a cat is, but when it can categorize it based on separate information it's gathered in the past your getting somewhere
and they will probably use evolution again, to choose the best program that identifies it then make the right decision on what action to take. This would use various algorithms to look through all previous data, we can't program such complicated algorithms but we can make thousands of copies until they start taking meaningful action

learning isn't the same as information btw, facial recognition?...

This post was edited by dakariii on Aug 21 2016 10:38pm
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