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Jun 18 2015 09:24am
Quote (thesnipa @ Jun 18 2015 10:52am)
I have dont very little research in this but i found this:



wouldnt that mean that any electro magnetic barrier would need to adjust to what it is encountering based on whatever that thing's molecular makeup is? Which seems impossible when hurtling through space towards it.



i think the mars outpost will be sooner than most people think, i cant remember but i thought the journey was around 8 years with modern spacercrafts last time i read into it. That # could be way off.


iv been following that mars colonization project thing they got going that is set to launch in 2022 or w/e. believe they said its 6-8 months. Im sure by 2060 trips to mars will be an occasional thing might even be like total recall be a vacation spot or ppl can live there hahaha
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Jun 19 2015 12:16pm
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iv been following that mars colonization project thing they got going that is set to launch in 2022 or w/e. believe they said its 6-8 months. Im sure by 2060 trips to mars will be an occasional thing might even be like total recall be a vacation spot or ppl can live there hahaha


Couple things that would might make that really hard:

We're really good at launching things into space, not so good at storing the tons of fuel that would be needed to do a return flight. I know Nasa is working on this

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plasma_propulsion_engine

IDK how close they are to using this though.

Another fact is that it gets to -260F on Mars, another big problem.

Another fact is that Humans need earth's force of gravity to maintain life, anything past 18 months and the person would become rather sickly atrophied.

I think putting a base on Mars is really SciFi stuff, unless we find there is a wealth of people wanting to make a one way trip.
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Jun 19 2015 12:42pm
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Couple things that would might make that really hard:

We're really good at launching things into space, not so good at storing the tons of fuel that would be needed to do a return flight. I know Nasa is working on this

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plasma_propulsion_engine

IDK how close they are to using this though.

Another fact is that it gets to -260F on Mars, another big problem.

Another fact is that Humans need earth's force of gravity to maintain life, anything past 18 months and the person would become rather sickly atrophied.

I think putting a base on Mars is really SciFi stuff, unless we find there is a wealth of people wanting to make a one way trip.


They already are...google it. 24 ppl or something like that are making that 1 way trip to mars to try and colonize it. Mars has some gravity not as much as earth tho
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Jun 19 2015 06:53pm
this shit is legit the people that signed up for this are pretty brave imo

http://www.mars-one.com/about-mars-one
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Jun 20 2015 11:38pm
Quote (thesnipa @ 18 Jun 2015 16:52)
wouldnt that mean that any electro magnetic barrier would need to adjust to what it is encountering based on whatever that thing's molecular makeup is? Which seems impossible when hurtling through space towards it.


Nope, that wouldn't mean you'd have to adjust for every diffrent molecular makeup. It's not like a frog is only made of up one kind of molecul.
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I'm interested to see how this whole Mars operation goes.

Realistically, I feel like it could be a huge mistake trying to establish human life there. There are lots of other things (resources; edible and inedible) required by humans for sustenance that Mars just can't deliver.
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this shit is legit the people that signed up for this are pretty brave imo

http://www.mars-one.com/about-mars-one


As long as they know the odds of survival are astronomical.<----ha ha pun intended.(Geek joke)
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Jun 22 2015 07:01am
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I'm interested to see how this whole Mars operation goes.

Realistically, I feel like it could be a huge mistake trying to establish human life there. There are lots of other things (resources; edible and inedible) required by humans for sustenance that Mars just can't deliver.


Yea im sure they will have to setup a greenhouse or some sort of farming habitat for food and oxygen supply no doubt. Mission like this leaves no room for error one thing goes wrong and they screwed. This is just the first of many planned for mars.

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As long as they know the odds of survival are astronomical.<----ha ha pun intended.(Geek joke)


Lol. Odds are against them for sure but it was prolly the same for us here when we first evolved
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Jun 22 2015 07:42am
Quote (Hellskin @ Jun 20 2015 11:38pm)
Nope, that wouldn't mean you'd have to adjust for every diffrent molecular makeup. It's not like a frog is only made of up one kind of molecul.


I understand that frogs are made up of a plethora of different molecules, all of which are relatively easy to account for as most if not all are known. Hurtling through space however, you would have no idea what you would encounter. Using that process doesn't the electromagnet need to adjust in order to account for materials of different composition or is it simply able to repel all things with no adjustment but varying degrees of repulsion? These are the only two possibilities i see physically possible, both pragmatic for space armor application. Minute adjustments would be impossible at high speeds and varying degrees would mean some things would likely collide with your ship because the magnet doesn't push them away enough.

Quote (Welterweight @ Jun 21 2015 05:19am)
I'm interested to see how this whole Mars operation goes.

Realistically, I feel like it could be a huge mistake trying to establish human life there. There are lots of other things (resources; edible and inedible) required by humans for sustenance that Mars just can't deliver.


Are we 100% sure that the soil composition of mars can not support plant life?

Obviously without the implementation of a pseudo-atmosphere to contain oxygen it wouldn't be possible but we could easily build agricultural hubs into future colonies provided the soil can support life, or even be made to support life. Or just haul a barge/compartment with some amount of workable soil. With enough additives and some sort of compost system soil could be maintained for a long time. Indians grew corn in sand by planting a dead fish beneath the seed, otherwise the soil wouldnt have supported the plant. Same concept, different planet.

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Jun 22 2015 07:49am
Quote (thesnipa @ Jun 22 2015 09:42am)
I understand that frogs are made up of a plethora of different molecules, all of which are relatively easy to account for as most if not all are known. Hurtling through space however, you would have no idea what you would encounter. Using that process doesn't the electromagnet need to adjust in order to account for materials of different composition or is it simply able to repel all things with no adjustment but varying degrees of repulsion? These are the only two possibilities i see physically possible, both pragmatic for space armor application. Minute adjustments would be impossible at high speeds and varying degrees would mean some things would likely collide with your ship because the magnet doesn't push them away enough.


polarize the hull plating!!!
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