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Moderation is the key as with all pharmaceuticals

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While it possesses no addictive qualities of its own, the life style it generates can most definitely be addictive.
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IF someone who smokes Mary Jane everyday thinks it's not addictive, stop the use of any drugs for a week. This includes alcohol or any mind altering substance.

Then tell me what you think :thumbsup:

https://www.marijuana-anonymous.org/book/our-stories/a-slave-to-marijuana

Cancer from smoking is caused by inflammation to cells for a long period of time. PERIOD. Whenever you cough, or hold in the smoke - that is inflamation. It actually has nothing to do with heat.
Chronic airway inflammation contributes to alterations in the bronchial epithelium and lung microenvironment, provoking a milieu conducive to pulmonary carcinogenesis. For example, inflammation-inducible cyclooxygenase-2 is upregulated in nonsmall cell lung cancer and also plays an important role in promoting epithelial-to-mesenchymal transition. Genetic changes in the airway epithelium of smokers may help predict or identify individuals at risk for lung cancer. Finally, radiographic findings of emphysema have been established as independent risk factors for lung cancer.
Source: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19417670
[URL]http://www.upci.upmc.edu/lung/inflammation.cfm
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http://www.atsjournals.org/doi/full/10.1513/pats.9.2.81#.VFz1ZfnF-D8

I used pot heavily After the Marines. 3 years later I was admitted to the hospital for a collapsed lung. I was coughing up blood and coughing up black specs of resin. I used a silver surfer vape by the way. I didn't smoke cigarettes either. It was 100% from the marijuana. I have a very difficult time remembering a lot of my Jr High and high school experience's.

Narcotics anonymous (NA) basic text illustrated how marijuana is defiantly harmful for ones well being. If a worldwide group of addicts, Mainly heroine addicts, recognizes marijuana as harmful - a typical person should see that as a warning. Pot made me not only lazy but it controlled my life and I was unable to do anything without the use of it. I had to smoke before I did anything, wash the dishes, go on a date, go out for dinner. I was unable to enjoy like without the use of it.


Sadly- a person who uses marijuana on a daily basis will not realize how harmful it is to their life, until the stop the use of drugs completely and let their mind heal. This includes alcohol.

Thanks and blessings

Ps: I wish I could change my name from herbdoc - I made this account when I used.

This post was edited by herbdoc on Nov 7 2014 10:38am
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Nov 7 2014 10:35am
Quote (herbdoc @ 7 Nov 2014 11:25)
IF someone who smokes Mary Jane everyday thinks it's not addictive, stop the use of any drugs for a week. This includes alcohol or any mind altering substance.

Then tell me what you think  :thumbsup:

https://www.marijuana-anonymous.org/book/our-stories/a-slave-to-marijuana

Cancer from smoking is caused by inflammation to cells for a long period of time. Ask any doctor.

I used pot heavily After the Marines. 3 years later I was admitted to the hospital for a collapsed lung. I was coughing up blood and coughing up black specs of resin.  I used a silver surfer vape by the way. I didn't smoke cigarettes either. It was 100% from the marijuana.  I have a very difficult time remembering a lot of my Jr High and high school experience's.

Narcotics anonymous (NA) basic text illustrated how marijuana is defiantly harmful for ones well being. If a worldwide group of addicts, Mainly heroine addicts, recognizes marijuana as harmful - a typical person should see that as a warning.

Pot made me not only lazy but it controlled my life and I was unable to do anything without the use of it. I had to smoke before I did anything, wash the dishes, go on a date, go out for dinner. I was unable to enjoy like without the use of it.


Sadly- a person who uses marijuana on a daily basis will not realize how harmful it is to their life,  until the stop the use of drugs completely and let their mind heal. This includes alcohol.

Thanks and blessings

Ps: I wish I could change my name from herbdoc - I made this account when I used.


Have done it, it's not addictive.
The lifestyle it breeds is, the drug is not.
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Nov 7 2014 10:40am
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Have done it, it's not addictive.

Just because you try a drug once - and don't use it everyday. Doesn't mean it's not addictive to the majority of people.
I used cocaine a few times - did i use it hundreds of times? no & never touched it again
I smoke crack like 10 times - never did it again.
I used snorted heroine ONCE - did i ever do it again? no
I smoked pot on and off - then used it everyday - then used an a couple grams per day for years

Tell that to the thousands of people who can't stop using it.
https://www.google.com/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=helpicantstopsmokingmarijuana


You think these people are addicted to the lifestyle and not the drug? wrong -

I wasn't happy smoking pot, my life was horrible compared to living drug free. I tried to quit for years and I couldn't.


Just because marijuana doesn't have the same withdrawal effects as say - heroine. Does not mean it's not addictive.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Addiction
Addiction is a state defined by compulsive engagement in naturally rewarding behavior orcompulsive drug use despiteadverse consequences; it can be thought of as a disease or biological process leading to such behaviors.

This post was edited by herbdoc on Nov 7 2014 10:48am
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IF someone who smokes Mary Jane everyday thinks it's not addictive, stop the use of any drugs for a week. This includes alcohol or any mind altering substance.

Then tell me what you think  :thumbsup:

https://www.marijuana-anonymous.org/book/our-stories/a-slave-to-marijuana

Cancer from smoking is caused by inflammation to cells for a long period of time. PERIOD. Whenever you cough, or hold in the smoke - that is inflamation. It actually has nothing to do with heat.
Chronic airway inflammation contributes to alterations in the bronchial epithelium and lung microenvironment, provoking a milieu conducive to pulmonary carcinogenesis. For example, inflammation-inducible cyclooxygenase-2 is upregulated in nonsmall cell lung cancer and also plays an important role in promoting epithelial-to-mesenchymal transition. Genetic changes in the airway epithelium of smokers may help predict or identify individuals at risk for lung cancer. Finally, radiographic findings of emphysema have been established as independent risk factors for lung cancer.
Source: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19417670
http://www.upci.upmc.edu/lung/inflammation.cfm
http://www.atsjournals.org/doi/full/10.1513/pats.9.2.81#.VFz1ZfnF-D8

I used pot heavily After the Marines. 3 years later I was admitted to the hospital for a collapsed lung. I was coughing up blood and coughing up black specs of resin.  I used a silver surfer vape by the way. I didn't smoke cigarettes either. It was 100% from the marijuana.  I have a very difficult time remembering a lot of my Jr High and high school experience's.

Narcotics anonymous (NA) basic text illustrated how marijuana is defiantly harmful for ones well being. If a worldwide group of addicts, Mainly heroine addicts, recognizes marijuana as harmful - a typical person should see that as a warning. Pot made me not only lazy but it controlled my life and I was unable to do anything without the use of it. I had to smoke before I did anything, wash the dishes, go on a date, go out for dinner. I was unable to enjoy like without the use of it.


Sadly- a person who uses marijuana on a daily basis will not realize how harmful it is to their life,  until the stop the use of drugs completely and let their mind heal. This includes alcohol.

Thanks and blessings

Ps: I wish I could change my name from herbdoc - I made this account when I used.


There have never been a cancer reliated to marijuana use alone.
Go see the studies i posted above.
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Nov 7 2014 10:51am
Quote (herbdoc @ Nov 7 2014 11:25am)
IF someone who smokes Mary Jane everyday thinks it's not addictive, stop the use of any drugs for a week. This includes alcohol or any mind altering substance.

Then tell me what you think  :thumbsup:

https://www.marijuana-anonymous.org/book/our-stories/a-slave-to-marijuana

Cancer from smoking is caused by inflammation to cells for a long period of time. PERIOD. Whenever you cough, or hold in the smoke - that is inflamation. It actually has nothing to do with heat.
Chronic airway inflammation contributes to alterations in the bronchial epithelium and lung microenvironment, provoking a milieu conducive to pulmonary carcinogenesis. For example, inflammation-inducible cyclooxygenase-2 is upregulated in nonsmall cell lung cancer and also plays an important role in promoting epithelial-to-mesenchymal transition. Genetic changes in the airway epithelium of smokers may help predict or identify individuals at risk for lung cancer. Finally, radiographic findings of emphysema have been established as independent risk factors for lung cancer.
Source: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19417670
http://www.upci.upmc.edu/lung/inflammation.cfm
http://www.atsjournals.org/doi/full/10.1513/pats.9.2.81#.VFz1ZfnF-D8

I used pot heavily After the Marines. 3 years later I was admitted to the hospital for a collapsed lung. I was coughing up blood and coughing up black specs of resin.  I used a silver surfer vape by the way. I didn't smoke cigarettes either. It was 100% from the marijuana.  I have a very difficult time remembering a lot of my Jr High and high school experience's.

Narcotics anonymous (NA) basic text illustrated how marijuana is defiantly harmful for ones well being. If a worldwide group of addicts, Mainly heroine addicts, recognizes marijuana as harmful - a typical person should see that as a warning. Pot made me not only lazy but it controlled my life and I was unable to do anything without the use of it. I had to smoke before I did anything, wash the dishes, go on a date, go out for dinner. I was unable to enjoy like without the use of it.


Sadly- a person who uses marijuana on a daily basis will not realize how harmful it is to their life,  until the stop the use of drugs completely and let their mind heal. This includes alcohol.

Thanks and blessings

Ps: I wish I could change my name from herbdoc - I made this account when I used.


did the doctors blame marijuana for the lung collapse???
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Quote (Loops @ Nov 7 2014 11:45am)
There have never been a cancer reliated to marijuana use alone.
Go see the studies i posted above.


I did read them and they are amateur at best - zero university studies or institute studies.
If a person has cancer and dies - If their history shows marijuana use and ciggarette use. Which do you think would be jotted down as the cause?
Marijuana causing cancer is really besides the point - Even if thousands of people got cancer from using it, people would still use it.

If you drink while pregnant - it causes birth defects
If you smoke ciggarettes - it causes cancer

do people still do thess things? yes.


Quote (duffman316 @ Nov 7 2014 11:51am)
did the doctors blame marijuana for the lung collapse???


They said it was due to chronic inflammation from smoking pot, yeah.
I told them I used a vaporizer on the lowest setting and was told that it doesn't matter because holding the smoke (or vapor) in my lungs causing strain on the tissues in my lungs.

Just how people pull muscles from holding heavy weight - it's the same with chronic inflammation and lung tissue.

This post was edited by herbdoc on Nov 7 2014 10:54am
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Nov 7 2014 10:59am
Marijuana is most certainly addictive btw. Significantly less addictive than most other recreational drugs, including alcohol and probably even caffeine, but a non-zero addiction potential.
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Nov 7 2014 11:01am
Quote (Voyaging @ Nov 7 2014 11:59am)
Marijuana is most certainly addictive btw. Significantly less addictive than most other recreational drugs, including alcohol and probably even caffeine, but a non-zero addiction potential.


wow voyaging i never thought we'd agree on something. :hug:
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