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Mar 19 2014 05:41pm
Quote (impulse155 @ 19 Mar 2014 23:35)
The difference is that for the audience it was meant for it wasn't dumbed down.


guess it wasn't targeted at creationists, impossible to dumb it down that much ;)
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Mar 22 2014 06:06am
Quote (brmv @ Mar 19 2014 04:41pm)
guess it wasn't targeted at creationists, impossible to dumb it down that much  ;)


heh I just found this article:

"Creationists’ absurd “Cosmos” demand: Give us equal airtime! "
http://www.salon.com/2014/03/21/creationists_absurd_cosmos_demand_give_us_equal_airtime/
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Quote (Azrad @ 22 Mar 2014 12:06)
heh I just found this article:
"Creationists’ absurd “Cosmos” demand: Give us equal airtime! "
http://www.salon.com/2014/03/21/creationists_absurd_cosmos_demand_give_us_equal_airtime/


not only is that article so enlightening :D but it tempted me to look at the janet mefferd's website and guess what i found there:
"Obamacare leaves Las Vegas man owing $407,000 in doctor bills" - hope that isn't you, but far better than that one is
"NASA-funded study: The way to save Western civilization from collapse is communism" linking through i couldn't find the word 'communism" in
http://www.theguardian.com/environment/earth-insight/2014/mar/14/nasa-civilisation-irreversible-collapse-study-scientists
but i guess the bolded in "The two key solutions are to reduce economic inequality so as to ensure fairer distribution of resources ..." qualifies as communism
yes yes yes, such a pity that the republican party of late deserves to be called

C-reationist
R-epublican
A-merican
P-opulace

don't forget that quite regular posters on this forum and pard are creationists or id adherents (including your recent sparring partner) but if one looks at
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Creation_and_evolution_in_public_education one notices that there are quite a few in different countries which according to the council of europe
"the war on the theory of evolution and on its proponents most often originates in forms of religious extremism which are closely allied to extreme right-wing political movements", and urged member states "to firmly oppose the teaching of creationism as a scientific discipline on an equal footing with the theory of evolution and in general resist presentation of creationist ideas in any discipline other than religion".
pleasant to see that 'Iranian pupils since 5th grade of elementary school learn only about evolution, thus portraying geologists and scientists in general as an authoritative voices of scientific knowledge.' while saudi arabia seems to be governed by the tea party: 'Evolution is only mentioned by name in Saudi 12th-grade textbook where it claims Charles Darwin has "denied Allah's creation of humanity"'
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Mar 22 2014 09:12am
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"NASA-funded study: The way to save Western civilization from collapse is communism" linking through i couldn't find the word 'communism" in


lol I've actually read the actual paper in question, and it is from SESYNC, not NASA... But I'm sure it wouldn't have been as sensational to say it was from SESYNC.
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Mar 22 2014 09:18am
http://www.sesync.org/sites/default/files/resources/motesharrei-rivas-kalnay.pdf If anyone is interested, although most people will probably find it the most boring paper in existence.
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Mar 22 2014 02:02pm
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In the second episode Neil breaks out something like "The Theory of Evolution is a FACT, and frankly I feel spiritually enlightened knowing that i'm genetically related to all living things"


IMO Pandering abit to much to the fedora wearers.

Whether or not a person believes in gods has nothing to do with the fact that evolution happened, and the Theory of Evolution is the scientific Theory that describes HOW these species changed over time.

If you choose to believe that evolution is the mechanism by which your version of your your favorite deity created the biological diversity that we see in the world, well that's up to you. Just like how Pastafarians believe that the reason people don't fly off the face of the Earth is because the Flying Spaghetti Monster ties people to the Earth with invisible pieces of cooked spaghetti. This theistic reasoning behind gravity doesn't actually detract from the observational science that drives the various gravitational theories that exist.
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Mar 22 2014 03:42pm
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Whether or not a person believes in gods has nothing to do with the fact that evolution happened, and the Theory of Evolution is the scientific Theory that describes HOW these species changed over time.

If you choose to believe that evolution is the mechanism by which your version of your your favorite deity created the biological diversity that we see in the world, well that's up to you. Just like how Pastafarians believe that the reason people don't fly off the face of the Earth is because the Flying Spaghetti Monster ties people to the Earth with invisible pieces of cooked spaghetti. This theistic reasoning behind gravity doesn't actually detract from the observational science that drives the various gravitational theories that exist.


Valid postulation, except that the so called Pastafarians are intentionally fake for the mere purpose of mockery alone. To bring this up really just detracts from your point.

Quote (Azrad @ Mar 22 2014 10:12am)
lol I've actually read the actual paper in question, and it is from SESYNC, not NASA... But I'm sure it wouldn't have been as sensational to say it was from SESYNC.


I think brmv was correct. It was a study completed by NASA's Goddard Space Center. The report itself was written by mathematician Safa Motesharrei of the National Soci-Environmental Synthesis Center

http://www.thealmagest.com/civilization-is-apparently-doomed-according-to-nasa/11537

This post was edited by FullArcFG on Mar 22 2014 03:48pm
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Quote (Azrad @ 22 Mar 2014 15:12)
lol I've actually read the actual paper in question, and it is from SESYNC, not NASA... But I'm sure it wouldn't have been as sensational to say it was from SESYNC.


guess that based on you reading that article you will have to add not only astronomy but also sociology and economics to the list you provided in post#34 of http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=70412215&f=90&o=30 and also with you frequenting the SESYNC website which advocates such speculative theories as climate change we better throw climatology and meteorology in for good measure :bouncy:

Quote (bentherdonethat @ 22 Mar 2014 20:02)
Whether or not a person believes in gods has nothing to do with the fact that evolution happened, and the Theory of Evolution is the scientific Theory that describes HOW these species changed over time.
you are not allowed to support the position of the catholic church on that one!
If you choose to believe that evolution is the mechanism by which your version of your your favorite deity created the biological diversity that we see in the world, well that's up to you. Just like how Pastafarians believe that the reason people don't fly off the face of the Earth is because the Flying Spaghetti Monster ties people to the Earth with invisible pieces of cooked spaghetti. This theistic reasoning behind gravity doesn't actually detract from the observational science that drives the various gravitational theories that exist.


seems that during your absence from jsp you have immersed yourself deeply into the mysteries of pastafarianism, how did you get out of it?
but you are welcome to join 'the club of people who know nothing about anything' as determined by 'Ylem122', the self-styled master of everything


Quote (FullArcFG @ 22 Mar 2014 21:42)
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I think brmv was correct. It was a study completed by NASA's Goddard Space Center. The report itself was written by mathematician Safa Motesharrei of the National Soci-Environmental Synthesis Center
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actually, i didn't dig that deep into the authorship as 'Azrad' did with reading the article
the guardian article caused a huge storm in a tea-(party?)-cup, the latest http://www.theguardian.com/environment/earth-insight/2014/mar/21/climate-change-scienceofclimatechange
if i read it right, nasa gave some money to sesync and part of that money was used/diverted to fund the quoted research
but it doesn't really matter, what i found funny is how it was reported on the janet mefferd website, which if you clicked on 'read more' went to a webpage headed by


NASA-funded study: The way to save Western civilization from collapse is communism

that article gave the link to the initial guardian article
now the latest guardian article on the subject mentions the 'discover magazine' for which i googled and yes i found it but also
'DISCOVERY apologetics press', a website for those interested in serious science :rofl:

@ 'Tears-':

the third episode of 'cosmos' must be screening in a few hours based on the information you gave me
where is your take on the second episode?





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Mar 22 2014 06:51pm
Quote (FullArcFG @ Mar 22 2014 02:42pm)
I think brmv was correct. It was a study completed by NASA's Goddard Space Center. The report itself was written by mathematician Safa Motesharrei of the National Soci-Environmental Synthesis Center
That is wildly inaccurate. NASA funded a study from the University of Maryland, part of the work was done by Motesharrei. Later Motesharrei used part of that mathematical model that was developed to develop another model for SESYNC.

I would be like if I hired BRMV to develop a new kind of wheel. In that process you were hired by BRMV to develop a new kind of grease for the wheel. Later you use this grease in your design of a new type of tank. It would be wildly inaccurate to say Azrad commissioned that tank.
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May 25 2014 02:56am
Watching it now ;)
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