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Sep 23 2013 10:52pm
Quote (Anphrax @ Sep 23 2013 04:36pm)
when we don't observe an atom it becomes a wave spread out all over with infinite possibilities, only when there is an observer the wave condense to a matter particle with a fixated position
That is actually false. A conscious observer is not required to make the collapse happen. Interaction with other materials is enough, often times it is just the normal air molecules that present a serious problem and this is why many experiments are done in hard vacuum, to reduce the chance of this happening unintentionally. This is one of the major stumbling blocks with creating a quantum processor (the accidental collapse into a definite state because of unintended interactions with the equipment/air in the processor). But the purveyors of New Age "quantum flap-a-doodle" always seem to forget to mention this tidbit.

Furthermore---and probably even more distressing---is that no part of the video you linked (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-YYBCNQnYNM) even addresses your claims. :unsure:

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Sep 23 2013 10:53pm
Quote (khemist @ Sep 23 2013 09:21pm)
but id suggest quantum mechanics lecture. try susskind, he does lectures on youtube posted by stanford university.
this ^^^
of course he will just say Susskind of part of a conspiracy theory or something, who knows. Crackpots fucking hate Susskind for some weird reason. :evil:

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Sep 24 2013 12:08am
Quote (khemist @ Sep 24 2013 03:21pm)
i dont think you understand.

you come here making ridiculous claims with youtube videos. they are asking for peer reviewed articles or some other sort of credible evidence. you claim you dont have to and that they are not willing to listen. yet you really dont even know what you are talking about. take some time to research the actual subject at hand (i didnt watch the video, but id suggest quantum mechanics lecture. try susskind, he does lectures on youtube posted by stanford university.)

i don't think you understand.

i don't give a fuck. go look it up yourself

if you cbf with that then theres no point arguing because you've already made up your mind. piss off.

Quote (Azrad @ Sep 24 2013 03:52pm)
That is actually false. A conscious observer is not required to make the collapse happen. Interaction with other materials is enough, often times it is just the normal air molecules that present a serious problem and this is why many experiments are done in hard vacuum, to reduce the chance of this happening unintentionally. This is one of the major stumbling blocks with creating a quantum processor (the accidental collapse into a definite state because of unintended interactions with the equipment/air in the processor). But the purveyors of New Age "quantum flap-a-doodle" always seem to forget to mention this tidbit.

Furthermore---and probably even more distressing---is that no part of the video you linked (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-YYBCNQnYNM) even addresses your claims.  :unsure:

consciousness is in everything.

e/ with everything theres counter arguments. you can choose a side and stick by it its your choice but AT LEAST do a research on what you're against.

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Sep 24 2013 05:37am
Quote (khemist @ 24 Sep 2013 04:21)
...try susskind, he does lectures on youtube posted by stanford university.)


useless suggestion for those who have no clue about post-secondary physics, no intention to do anything about it and rather believe in something for the fun of it than trying to gain any understanding
just another variant of young earth creationists
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Sep 24 2013 10:56am
Quote (Anphrax @ Sep 23 2013 11:08pm)
i don't think you understand.

i don't give a fuck. go look it up yourself

if you cbf with that then theres no point arguing because you've already made up your mind. piss off.


consciousness is in everything.

e/ with everything theres counter arguments. you can choose a side and stick by it its your choice butAT LEAST do a research on what you're against.


very ironic statement. you must be 18 years old and smoke weed huh.

if you are stoned and think you know the answer, try waiting until the morning. an 18 year old who smokes weed certainly will not be figuring out problems in science that have lingered for many, many years, with some of the brightest minds working on them. but you obviously feel entitled and apparently know, so id suggest writing an article and get it published in a journal. could get you a nobel prize.

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Sep 24 2013 11:03am
Quote (Anphrax @ Sep 23 2013 11:08pm)
consciousness is in everything.
Cheesecake is everything. Now you just need to show why your statement is more accurate than mine.

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Sep 24 2013 12:59pm
wait i thought this thread was making a stab at that other dude who posts this kind of stuff... what?
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Sep 24 2013 01:05pm
Quote (Derkaderk @ Sep 24 2013 11:59am)
wait i thought this thread was making a stab at that other dude who posts this kind of stuff... what?


There is more than one fruit in the fruitcake.
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Sep 24 2013 04:17pm
Quote (Azrad @ Sep 25 2013 04:03am)
Cheesecake is everything. Now you just need to show why your statement is more accurate than mine.


Quote (Azrad @ Sep 25 2013 06:05am)
There is more than one fruit in the fruitcake.

mate piss off

if you dont enjoy it then leave.

if you knew anything you wouldnt be here on jsp dickhead
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Sep 24 2013 04:30pm
Quote (Anphrax @ Sep 24 2013 05:17pm)
mate piss off

if you dont enjoy it then leave.

if you knew anything you wouldnt be here on jsp dickhead


so you admit you are on jsp because you don't know anything?

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