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dark matter is completely made up.


just no...
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Jun 26 2013 06:22pm
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just no...



just yes.


In astronomy and cosmology, dark matter is a type of matter hypothesized to account for a large part of the total mass in the universe. Dark matter cannot be seen directly with telescopes; evidently it neither emits nor absorbs light or other electromagnetic radiation at any significant level.


HMMMMMMMM.. i smell bullshit.
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Jun 26 2013 06:27pm
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just yes.


In astronomy and cosmology, dark matter is a type of matter hypothesized to account for a large part of the total mass in the universe. Dark matter cannot be seen directly with telescopes; evidently it neither emits nor absorbs light or other electromagnetic radiation at any significant level.


HMMMMMMMM.. i smell bullshit.

so is god and he is real. haven't debunked anything
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Jun 26 2013 06:31pm
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just yes.


In astronomy and cosmology, dark matter is a type of matter hypothesized to account for a large part of the total mass in the universe. Dark matter cannot be seen directly with telescopes; evidently it neither emits nor absorbs light or other electromagnetic radiation at any significant level.


HMMMMMMMM.. i smell bullshit.


Well it obviously interact with other matter, because we can see that it has mass by light bending around it.

Dont come into the middle of this conversation with your "theories" because they are generally wrong. Read the rest of the thread before commenting. I quote my post in page 2:

Quote (khemist @ Jun 24 2013 01:55pm)
maybe dark matter is hypothetical, but the point is that the effect is real and observed.


Not understanding it doesnt mean its bullshit.

This post was edited by khemist on Jun 26 2013 06:32pm
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Jun 26 2013 06:38pm
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Well it obviously interact with other matter, because we can see that it has mass by light bending around it.

Dont come into the middle of this conversation with your "theories" because they are generally wrong. Read the rest of the thread before commenting. I quote my post in page 2:



Not understanding it doesnt mean its bullshit.



i 'understand' that its bullshit sry
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Jun 26 2013 06:40pm
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i 'understand' that its bullshit sry


I can tell your physics education is unmatched. Please, tell me more.

But I am sure you know that dark matter is the forefront of physics research.

http://arxiv.org/find/all/1/all:+AND+dark+matter/0/1/0/all/0/1

Take a gander.

This post was edited by khemist on Jun 26 2013 06:41pm
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Jun 26 2013 06:47pm
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I can tell your physics education is unmatched. Please, tell me more.

But I am sure you know that dark matter is the forefront of physics research.

http://arxiv.org/find/all/1/all:+AND+dark+matter/0/1/0/all/0/1

Take a gander.



all i see is this: Your query resulted in too many hits, only 1000 hits are being displayed. These are not necessarily the 1000 most recent papers. We recommend that you try a more specific search.

then this. Low-redshift evolution of the Lyman-alpha Forest ... lmao.
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Jun 26 2013 06:54pm
All these papers are within the last 3 years:

http://arxiv.org/pdf/1306.5878.pdf
http://arxiv.org/pdf/1306.5274.pdf
http://arxiv.org/pdf/1306.2959.pdf
http://arxiv.org/pdf/1306.3244.pdf

They all basically say there is something there that we can measure, but we dont know what it is. Physicists call it dark matter. As an aside, dark matter has nothing to do with dark energy, if you were wondering.

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Jun 27 2013 07:53am
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All these papers are within the last 3 years:

http://arxiv.org/pdf/1306.5878.pdf
http://arxiv.org/pdf/1306.5274.pdf
http://arxiv.org/pdf/1306.2959.pdf
http://arxiv.org/pdf/1306.3244.pdf

They all basically say there is something there that we can measure, but we dont know what it is. Physicists call it dark matter. As an aside, dark matter has nothing to do with dark energy, if you were wondering.


ah so there is infact a way to detect it aside from needing it to exist to prevent holes in modern physics?
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Jun 27 2013 10:33am
Quote (duffman316 @ Jun 27 2013 06:53am)
ah so there is infact a way to detect it aside from needing it to exist to prevent holes in modern physics?


We detect dark matter from graviational effects that should not be there based on current theories. Basically, approximetly 25% of the universe is made up of dark matter.

I should have thought about this long ago, but here is the NASA site on dark matter: http://science.nasa.gov/astrophysics/focus-areas/what-is-dark-energy/

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By fitting a theoretical model of the composition of the Universe to the combined set of cosmological observations, scientists have come up with the composition that we described above, ~68% dark energy, ~27% dark matter, ~5% normal matter. What is dark matter?
We are much more certain what dark matter is not than we are what it is. First, it is dark, meaning that it is not in the form of stars and planets that we see. Observations show that there is far too little visible matter in the Universe to make up the 27% required by the observations. Second, it is not in the form of dark clouds of normal matter, matter made up of particles called baryons. We know this because we would be able to detect baryonic clouds by their absorption of radiation passing through them. Third, dark matter is not antimatter, because we do not see the unique gamma rays that are produced when antimatter annihilates with matter. Finally, we can rule out large galaxy-sized black holes on the basis of how many gravitational lenses we see. High concentrations of matter bend light passing near them from objects further away, but we do not see enough lensing events to suggest that such objects to make up the required 25% dark matter contribution.
However, at this point, there are still a few dark matter possibilities that are viable. Baryonic matter could still make up the dark matter if it were all tied up in brown dwarfs or in small, dense chunks of heavy elements. These possibilities are known as massive compact halo objects, or "MACHOs". But the most common view is that dark matter is not baryonic at all, but that it is made up of other, more exotic particles like axions or WIMPS (Weakly Interacting Massive Particles).


Where I reiterate: we dont know what it is, but we know something is there. This "something" is termed dark matter.

This post was edited by khemist on Jun 27 2013 10:34am
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