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Oct 26 2012 07:06am
Thinking is what we need to adapt. So yes to survive we need to think.
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Oct 26 2012 09:26am
Quote (GodSmiter @ 26 Oct 2012 15:06)
Thinking is what we need to adapt. So yes to survive we need to think.


If an accident happens to you, you can think as much as you want it will not help you to adapt... You would rather need medication and relax/rest.
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Oct 26 2012 07:15pm
Quote (Eti_fr @ Oct 26 2012 09:26am)
If an accident happens to you, you can think as much as you want it will not help you to adapt... You would rather need medication and relax/rest.


good idea

get it?

GET IT?!
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Oct 26 2012 08:55pm
Quote (Eti_fr @ Oct 26 2012 10:26am)
If an accident happens to you, you can think as much as you want it will not help you to adapt... You would rather need medication and relax/rest.


Medication.. which comes from thinking. You missed my point entirely.
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Nov 12 2012 09:18am
Quote (Eti_fr @ Oct 9 2012 12:57am)
I mean only humans have a mind that is producing thoughts, emotions, dreams... well maybe other animals have some kind of mind, I have not done studies myself to check this, but you know what I mean.
Other animals are not conscious they will die for exemple.


I'm sure I read somthing where some animals can actually dream...
Also, they do have emotions, it's so easy to see if you're around them asmuch as me.
Some animals know they're going to do it...
The only thing that seperates us from other animals is a rational mind.
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Nov 12 2012 12:10pm
Quote (AdamUK @ Nov 12 2012 05:18pm)
I'm sure I read somthing where some animals can actually dream...
Also, they do have emotions, it's so easy to see if you're around them asmuch as me.
Some animals know they're going to do it...
The only thing that seperates us from other animals is a rational mind.


not necessarily rational
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Nov 13 2012 02:54am
Quote (Eti_fr @ Oct 8 2012 05:40pm)
Descartes wrote "je pense, donc je suis" that means "I think, so I am"... It is right in a way : only humans can think...
That said, we do not need to think to stay alive, else we would be the only animals on earth... we only need to breathe.
I am not saying we should never think, just that we actually do NOT need our mind most of the time.
One good exemple is when you listen to music... you do not need to think, you just need to listen to it with your spirit (or soul, or heart if you prefer). The less you think, the more you actually listen to music and enjoy it... this is why you can appreciate music better with weed, or some drugs like LSD... but you actually do not need them, all you need is think less and listen.
It goes the same way with everything else in life : the less you think, the more you live the present moment and enjoy it.

Bob Marley said : "Emancipate yourselves from mental slavery, none but ourselves can free our minds"

Remember :
You are more than your mind : you are the spirit listening (or soul, or heart...) to it and your other 5 senses.


"Voici mon secret. Il est très simple: on ne voit bien qu'avec le cœur. L'essentiel est invisible pour les yeux."
"Here is my secret. It is very simple: It is only with the heart that one can see rightly; what is essential is invisible to the eye."
From Le petit prince (Antoine de Saint-Exupéry)

What do you think ? :)


bob marley was referring to self doubt in that quote,

and I'm pretty sure "je pense, donc je suis" means I think therefor I am ,I interpret that as your own conscious state of mind being what defines you, I don't think it has anything to do with only humans being able to think.

but If what you're asking is can we live on just primal instincts, like sleep eat breath etc
then I think yes, to an extent, but you have to have some form of decision making skills, even animals do. Our mind frame as it is today isn't much different from animals, we just have amazing tools and more complicated ways of pleasing yourself, everything else is just about the same in it's own way.
all we do in life is sleep,
work for money to buy food = hunting to get food
look for a woman to be with and make babies
etc etc etc
if you think about it, if you just took away civilization/technology along with vocal communication, on the outside we would basically be your idea of animals with no minds, only doing what you have to do to get your next meal or place to sleep.

that being said who's to say animals can't think? or to take it a step further whose to say they aren't having intelligent thoughts/ form of communication? A lot of evidence is showing certain animals are infact extremely smart, vocal and emotional. A few years ago groups of elephants in captivity all started attacking people and trying to rampage simultaneously and was such a problem that scientists studying it thought they were trying to revolt, they have even found areas where elephants have buried their dead and have recorded elephants in mourning weeks after losing a member of their group, only eating bare minimum and sleeping longer then usual . Turtles who mate for life and not only mate for life but stay close to their partner for over a hundred years never leaving them alone. Monkeys and hipos who go out of their way to help a animal in danger that isn't even of their same species.
the list goes on. :rolleyes:

This post was edited by HappyWarrior on Nov 13 2012 02:58am
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Nov 16 2012 01:46am
Thinking revolves around your brain so i'd say so :p

Same with something as simple as our senses. Imagine not being able to taste foods that enjoy everyday?
Every bodily function is a thinking process and triggers a chemical which is generally what the brain is made up of as far as our thinking process's go.

Essentially do we NEED to think to live? No.
Life also wouldn't be as enjoyable if you we'rent able to make decisions that intrigue you but then again we wouldn't really know what those decisions are if we didn't have them from day 1 as a human race.
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Nov 27 2012 05:06pm
Op couldn't be more wrong on this topic

Descartes stated cogito ergo sum, or "I think therefore I am" in an effort to prove that since he is thinking, there is no other conslusion to draw except that he exists.
That was the point of that.

Now, if one doesn't think, he will either starve, or freeze, or get hit by a car in the middle of the street, etc.

Your body may be what tells you to eat, but your brain is what processes that information.

Think of it this way: your stomach growls. would you go pick an apple off of a tree without pondering your hunger first? your body knowing you're hungry is not the same as your brain knowing youre hungry.

if we didnt think we would never react to what our body is telling us. our stomach would growl, and we wouldnt even be able to understand why.

thought is detrimental to survival.

maybe there's a possibility of survival without thought in a world where free will doesnt exist (note: that's doesnt exist, not isnt applied)
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