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Aug 21 2012 12:35am
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the smartest humans in the world now are much more interested in engineering perfect roles as wall street parasites

screw advancing technology for the purpose of space exploratoin

gotta spend millions on microwave towers from NYC to Chicago to reduce lag by a few milliseconds so trading firms can leech more off of society than they could have before
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Aug 21 2012 12:41am
Quote (madeinchinars @ Aug 21 2012 02:35am)
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the smartest humans in the world now are much more interested in engineering perfect roles as wall street parasites

screw advancing technology for the purpose of space exploratoin

gotta spend millions on microwave towers from NYC to Chicago to reduce lag by a few milliseconds so trading firms can leech more off of society than they could have before



To be fair tho. you're mostly talking about America.

and we haven't been the leaders in anything recently except debt and obesity / cancer etc..

I have faith the rest of humanity might pull through and keep exploring space.
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its nice they were able to do all that with that old school stuff but we are way beyond those days

I'm sure if Einstein were alive today he would wonder why we haven't been venturing further into space and colonizing other planets. And by we I mean HUMANS not robots

Imagine if I designed the first wheel today.
It was wooden. it rolled and it was decent.

I put 4 of these wood wheels on the wagon. had my horse pull me across the world and when the trip was over.
I took my wagon. chopped it up into firewood and never improved it.


That is essentially what we've done.

We had a nice wooden wheel. It could have been improved into a steel belted radial tyre on a aluminum rim but instead we decided to burn it.

The probes we send up are nice. but nobody is getting excited about seeing yet another satellite put into space.

We  NEED to be exploring.
Humans have been exploring since the dawn of time. We found continents. new islands. tons of new stuff here on earth.

and we went to the moon one single time? and it wasn't even well recorded and documented because of limitations.

I want to know why as a group of humans we arent focused on exploring anymore.
It is basically human nature to explore.


we are exploring with rovers so i'm not sure how you don't consider that exploring.

you realize it takes about 250+ days of space travel just to get to mars with a small craft? imagine the huge amount of supplies just a group of 5 people would need to do the space travel part let alone the colonization part.

you are forgetting many many many factors so stop making it sound easy.
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Aug 21 2012 12:44am
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we are exploring with rovers so i'm not sure how you don't consider that exploring.

you realize it takes about 250+ days of space travel just to get to mars with a small craft? imagine the huge amount of supplies just a group of 5 people would need to do the space travel part let alone the colonization part.

you are forgetting many many many factors so stop making it sound easy.


you can always just send north koreans and dont bother about the food or water or whatnot

only problem is instead of exploring they'd plant flags with kim il sung
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Quote (Subwoofer @ Aug 21 2012 02:41am)
we are exploring with rovers so i'm not sure how you don't consider that exploring.

you realize it takes about 250+ days of space travel just to get to mars with a small craft? imagine the huge amount of supplies just a group of 5 people would need to do the space travel part let alone the colonization part.

you are forgetting many many many factors so stop making it sound easy.



You need boots on the ground good buddy,

(EXAMPLE)
If i sent a robot over to your country with a CCTV camera mounted on it and sat in my living room here in America.

I could see your country but I couldn't tell people that I'd been there and explored it LOL.

you actually need to BE THERE.

I can sit in my living room watching films about italy for the next 2 months. but that doesn't mean I've been there and explored it.
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Aug 21 2012 12:49am
Quote (Jagx @ Aug 21 2012 01:44am)
You need boots on the ground good buddy,

(EXAMPLE)
If i sent a robot over to your country with a CCTV camera mounted on it and sat in my living room here in America.

I could see your country but I couldn't tell people that I'd been there and explored it LOL.

you actually need to BE THERE.

I can sit in my living room watching films about italy for the next 2 months. but that doesn't mean I've been there and explored it.


okay so some guys go to mars surface and send back pictures.

well shit its pictures and not 1st hand data so i guess you still didn't explore it.

the point is when it comes to pictures it doesn't matter whether it was a rover or a person because the picture is the only important thing.
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Aug 21 2012 01:05am
Quote (Subwoofer @ Aug 21 2012 02:49am)
okay so some guys go to mars surface and send back pictures.

well shit its pictures and not 1st hand data so i guess you still didn't explore it.

the point is when it comes to pictures it doesn't matter whether it was a rover or a person because the picture is the only important thing.



The person can describe what they saw tho. and interviews and 1st hand accounts are much better than simply assuming things from a photograph

Example.
(How did the ground feel as you walked on it)

"It was like wet sand"

How the f*** is a robot going to answer that question LOL.

This post was edited by Jagx on Aug 21 2012 01:05am
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Aug 21 2012 01:10am
Quote (Jagx @ Aug 21 2012 02:05am)
The person can describe what they saw tho. and interviews and 1st hand accounts are much better than simply assuming things from a photograph

Example.
(How did the ground feel as you walked on it)

"It was like wet sand"

How the f*** is a robot going to answer that question LOL.


they are called sensors. they collect data and then interpret that data into usable information.

ya know...exactly how your sight and touch works.
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they are called sensors. they collect data and then interpret that data into usable information.

ya know...exactly how your sight and touch works.



ok let me see you make a sensor that can detect smells like a dogs nose does.

didn't think so.
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Quote (Jagx @ Aug 21 2012 02:18am)
ok let me see you make a sensor that can detect smells like a dogs nose does.

didn't think so.


smell sensors already exist.

the more important point however is are you serious? people would be in space suits and wouldn't be allowed to be in direct contact with any of the samples when not in their suits.

once again you show that even the fundamentals of space exploration elude you.

This post was edited by Subwoofer on Aug 21 2012 01:26am
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