And who said you either with us or against us? I am a WAR President....Trained as much as possible for convert actions since he was a kid. Stoled his way into office ...and made up fribricated lies to War with Iraq. And you want say liberals communist?
guess you prefore facism you nazi lover.

that is other side soo now we each call the other nazi or commy. How they keep us hating each other instead of them the elite! We Americans or did you forget that? Why follow into this bs rep or dem it is 1% rulling 99% lol

get away from both parties they stink now with corruption and death

So if animals do it humans should?

Why not cannibalism? Some animals have well documented cannilbalistic behavior.

Why don't we throw our own feces around? Some animals do it.

That literally is one of the worst arguments to bring forth in an attempt to defend homsexuality.

Let me add that I have no problem with a homosexual as a person. I will show them kindness and help them when they need it. But there is no disputing the fact that you cannot create a baby from a homosexual relationship. You would have to take other steps to put a baby in their hands, and I'm all for adoption and the such. But to say that it's justifiable for humans to demonstrate homosexual behavior simply because animals do it is ridiculous. We are a more intelligent species for many reasons, and doing things just because some animals demonstrate those behaviors is not one of them. There are still many things that we have in common with animals that we shouldn't, but that is no reason to backtrack and compare a homosexual person to an animal.

This post was edited by xXAn0nym0usXx on Aug 2 2012 02:44pm

it has nothing to do with "should". it has to do with "can". humans are perfectly capable of homosexual behavior naturally so we "can" be homosexuals. whether or not we "should" be is a moral issue.

humans also have a well documented cannibalistic behavior.

we do throw our feces around. instead of our hands we've just made a complicated tube system to do it.

as i said keep confusing morals with natural behaviors and its obviously not going to make sense.

i compare all people with animals because guess what? we are animals. we evolved just like any other species out there.

you realize homosexuals are outright not allowed to adopt in a handful of states? many others don't expressly say it but there is an obvious trend not to allow them even when it should be complete legal.

aside from that you can use artificial insemination but thats generally frowned upon by the same people that hate homosexuals.

so to recap...stop confusing moral based behavior with natural behavior.

First off while some humans have performed cannibalistic acts it's obvious that is not socially accepted behavior, and just because some humans demonstrate that behavior it doesn't become justified.

And your comparison of the throwing of crap to the sophisticated sewage system humans have developed is laughable. Those two are not even comparable.

And a human is an animal we do not act like animals for a reason. We purposefully try to separate ourselves from animals because we are in fact intellectually superior.

uh ya it was/is acceptable in quite a few societies. believe it or not your countries society isn't the only one in the world.

it was a joke more than anything. the point was we still have to deal with our shit in one way or another. do you think koalas babies are gross because they HAVE to each their parents feces to live? believe it or not shit is important to life so stop bashing it.

we don't act like animals? are you serious right now? we share many many similar behaviors as every other social species on the planet.

yes we are intellectually superior but that doesn't change the fact we still have plenty of primal behaviors still.

sex being the primitive behavior we are discussing. so therefore primitive behaviors have natural foundations not moral ones. so stop using morals to say a natural thing is wrong.

ive been worse oxymorons...

so then there is no need for marraige at all.

This post was edited by Ylem122 on Aug 3 2012 04:01am

trollolololol
feel free to prove that cannibalism wasnt socially acceptable throughout most of humanities existence
id love to hear it

to equate only modern social behaviour with human behaviour
is to negate any cultural evolution...
gl winning that argument



welcome to the modern world

This post was edited by Matao on Aug 3 2012 05:19am

Homosexual pairings have been observed in hundreds of species. It's plainly obvious that you require a male/female pairing to produce offspring, but that's nowhere near the only reason animals (or humans) have sex. This point is meaningless.


There isn't a single rational argument against homosexuality. Everything that isn't based in religion crumbles to the ground once you seek evidence to support any of oppositional claims (and the ones that are based in religion have no solid ground on which to base their assumptions). If you're a thinking person, which you claim to be, then you would actually put time into finding out whether what you believe is actually true instead of just acting on your gut instinct and what feels true to you.


Wow man, you're so mad. I never once insulted you (though if you think having someone say you hold a bigoted view when you do is an insult, that's your problem -- not mine), yet you went into a firestorm of insults against me.

All I want is equality for my gay friends, coworkers, and family members. You're dead set against them having rights. How could you possibly think it's inaccurate for me to say that on that issue, you are bigoted? People used "conservative family values" and "natural" arguments against black people and women getting equal rights too, you know.