Quote (piddywiffle @ Dec 22 2011 10:08pm)

Unexplainable?

Sir... You need to do some reading.

Evolution is a pretty healthy bit of science.

Quote (DisLeader @ Dec 22 2011 01:17am)

Actually that kind of view is completely justified, because that would be exactly how he worked. He's been around since before the beginning of time, I think he can take a few million years to create some new and bizarre life.



I actually find it funny now-a-days trying to convince myself otherwise that there is no God. I actually do try but it never works for me, because I'm reminded of the atheist scientists and professors that now say there was an "impersonal force" behind the big bang and the creation of the universe. Basically their saying that the universe is too organized to have been randomly created. They will call God an "impersonal force" simply because they do not believe in Him. Don't think me a religious fanatic preaching, I do not go to church. I simply find it hard to not believe in Him anymore.

Quote (DisLeader @ Dec 23 2011 06:31am)

The universe was created by the Big Bang of course, but I see where you are coming from. I guess the best answer is that no one knows what exactly created Him, some will even argue that He has always been. If you think about it really, He has since time did not exist before the Big Bang. And he definitely was the cause of the Big Bang no question, its simply scientifically impossible to shove all the matter that makes up the entire universe into this period.

Quote (Queso @ Dec 23 2011 01:07am)

Except the earth is only 6000 years old according to the bible
Weird how you pick and choose what to believe

Quote (Matao @ Dec 23 2011 02:12am)

the universe was not "created " by the  "big bang "
the inflation was just that , inflation ( and still is )

and to say its scientifically impossible to have all the universes matter condensed into a singularity .....
you do realize that is exactly what the scientific community believes

Quote (DisLeader @ Dec 23 2011 07:22pm)

The people that started that nonsense was proven wrong a long time ago and nobody with a brain still believes that.
/e Side note, I do not read the bible.



It is true that all the matter was condensed into a singularity, that is a fact. I guess what I meant to say is that they cannot explain the Big Bang scientifically because just how did all that matter get shoved into . that size in the first place?

/e According to a naive interpretation of general relativity that ignores quantum mechanics, the initial state of the universe, at the beginning of the Big Bang, was a singularity. Both General Relativity and Quantum Mechanics break down in describing the Big Bang, but in general quantum mechanics does not permit particles to inhabit a space smaller than their wavelengths. Sounds pretty unexplainable to me.

Quote (Matao @ Dec 23 2011 03:07am)

you're simply not making any sense  ,that i can see
space smaller than a wavelength ?
all of space , from one edge of our universe to the other , was the singularity .....

the inflation  (big bang ) is space itself expanding
as it continues to do to this day

not to mention very simple ideas  , such as the 4 forces were once united , and split as the universe inflated ( as the volume of the universe increased as the space feild inflated )
physics as we know it simply didnt exist in the singularity .....

Quote (DisLeader @ Dec 23 2011 08:14pm)

I'm not making any sense? Here. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gravitational_singularity Pay close attention to when they start talking about the two different kind of singularities.