What do you mean when you say "everything"? If there is no such thing as a divine creator, then even in an infinite universe, one simply doesn't exist. So God can be imagined, but imagination does not spring things into existence.

Let me just clear this up first... I don't mean to offend you in any way, just try and get something out of this conversation. I might not make much sense at parts but just point them out and I will explain what I mean in detail. What my method is for explaining all this to you is me going to the level of oneness with everything which I believe is the universe at its true state. From that view manifests the words to bring you to this realization. The words will try to condition you to snap out of the word realm.

To me "God" means the same thing as "universe" does to others, its categorizing everything (meaning all things) at once. Now I know there would be people who would say god and universe are very different but I just see it as coloring the same experience a different color. After all we are all connected no matter how you see it from science or religious, so we are all striving for the same goal.

How I see the divine creator is another word for the nothingness. We would need to compare this something we see, a contrasting background which would be the nothingness. The nothingness is a great way to bring about an unconditional state of being. This is helpful in the sense that we can be less of what we thought we were and more of the universe as a whole (everything at once). When I say "less of what we thought we were" I don't mean to say the goal is to become nothing and exclude the physical. I mean to say when we see the world with troubled eyes we have gone into the illusion of separateness hence the reasoning for a lot of people thinking that everything is against them in the world today. To view the universe in balance is to bring about the nothingness into your life right alongside with the something. The universe has always been balanced but its a matter of how we as awareness perceive it all. When we do this I see it as a level of communication with levels of ourselves we have no understanding of because they are not from an understanding point of view. The only way we can connect with this is because we are not our minds totally. The mind we are witnessing is only one piece of the whole. The other forces or w/e you wanna call them are there and can be used only when the mind surrenders to that that is. You could call it the next level of open mindedness lol. LMK what you got out of this!

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Okay, so you're a kind of pantheist? I tried that out for a little while but then decided the added baggage tied to the word god is just silly in my opinion, and there's no reason to use it if you're just using it to mean the exact same thing as the universe.

As for trying to become open-minded, it sounds a lot like just trying to use your imagination. A lot of people from many different religions think things with their minds (prayer, meditation, etc) and many of them would swear to the fact that they're finding the answer they wanted to hear (their favorite god communicating with them, a zen-like state of peace, etc). In my opinion, all that shows is that the human imagination truly is limitless, but it doesn't show that a god is talking back to us or that we're actually connecting to the rest of the universe on any deeper level.

Yes...it is unknown whether the universe is actually an infinite Euclidean space ("physical realm").

I try not to label what I am because that just brings in more status into the process of becoming the one. I only mean to explain god as universe because I believe there is a lot of half religious people out there who actually mean the universe as god so I can bring them to me realizations without the argument of whether or not science and religion is correct (It truly is an infinite battle).

Now as I said before "The words will try to condition you to snap out of the word realm." I don't mean to sound like I'm explaining my imagination but when I use words it will sound like that. This is why I use the nothingness so often because it is trying to bring about no words into the realization. This meaning anyone can have this realization at any point and it doesn't have to be intense or anything like that. There is a lot of people who try to sell spiritual enlightenment as something amazing. In a way it is but it can also just be looking at the world very ordinary yet seeing a shift in how you saw it before. Meaning things will still be there like your car, house, trees or w/e just the way you look at them with have something different (an unexplainable experience only made for you). When you say "god is talking back to us or that we're actually connecting to the rest of the universe on any deeper level" I don't mean to say you will hear words and if you do maybe that's what works for you. And as for a deeper level like I said before in this post it doesn't have to be a deep profound experience it can simple just be the most ordinary moment in your life because we are it regardless. As zen put it as "clarity" of the mind.

I'll leave you with this Ram Dass quote "Your problem is you are too busy holding on to your unworthiness."

I'm not comparing my answer to the mainstream scientists. I'm comparing it to my personal experience.

Fact overrules personal experience. Wouldn't you agree from your personal experience? And I doubt you've seen such an infinite space in the physical realm...in your personal experience ofc.

And what if we could emerse oursleves in a world like that? Tap into it.. A concious reality that could be played hundreds of times faster than your normal life..How many times could you live your life before expiration? Imagine if someone who was actually intelligent used it for research/development? Applied physics could create a testing ground




or just stop doing drugs

Fact comes from personal experience... Without the self none of this would exist.