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Jun 11 2011 08:33pm
Quote (Boogersnot308 @ Jun 11 2011 09:27pm)
I actually have to say the same to you.


you're inability to piece together information into a logical picture its pretty disappointing. the basis of you're argument is you knew what he was thinking his entire life. the evidence shows a very simple thing...before:saved lives after:took lives. the power at the camp and the assigned job obviously influenced his actions. he was a regular person right up until he was told to do some horrible thing and it escalated after he was exposed to mass murder. you keep trying to pretend he was always a monster when the evidence shows the death camps caused his mental state to change heavily.

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Jun 11 2011 08:40pm
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you're inability to piece together information into a logical picture its pretty disappointing. the basis of you're argument is you knew what he was thinking his entire life. the evidence shows a very simple thing...before:saved lives after:took lives. the power at the camp and the assigned job obviously influenced his actions. he was a regular person right up until he was told to do some horrible thing and it escalated after he was exposed to mass murder. you keep trying to pretend he was always a monster when the evidence shows the death camps caused his mental state to change heavily.


No.
He saved the lives of his fellow soldiers.
He killed his experiments.
He already had the mindset that Jews, among others, were not humans, and therefor did not care what he did to them.
Is that hard to understand?
When Hitler came to power, he didn't suddenly think, "Okay, now let's kill all of the Jews."
No.
He had that mindset.

Am I missing something?

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Jun 11 2011 08:48pm
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No.
He saved the lives of his fellow soldiers.
He killed his experiments.
He already had the mindset that Jews, among others, were not humans, and therefor did not care what he did to them.
Is that hard to understand?
When Hitler came to power, he didn't suddenly think, "Okay, now let's kill all of the Jews."
No.
He had that mindset.

Am I missing something?


honestly go read about him and stop basing your opinion on him by what he did rather than what led him to do it.

he was heavily influenced to do the things he did he did not choose to do them himself.

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Jun 11 2011 08:53pm
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honestly go read about him and stop basing your opinion on him by what he did rather than what led him to do it.

he was heavily influenced to do the things he did he did not choose to do them himself.


Instead of telling me to go out and read on him, why don't you actually give examples or back up what you say?
Until you do, I am not arguing this any further.

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Jun 11 2011 08:56pm
Quote (Boogersnot308 @ Jun 11 2011 09:53pm)
Instead of telling me to go out and read on him, why don't you actually give examples or back up what you say?
Until you do, I am not arguing this any further.


lol...ignorant and stupid. keep on digging that hole.

lmk when you aren't a child that needs spoon fed things he can do himself.
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Jun 11 2011 08:57pm
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lol...ignorant and stupid. keep on digging that hole.

lmk when you aren't a child that needs spoon fed things he can do himself.


Yeah, I figured you would say that.
Whether I'm right or wrong, you really are terrible at this.
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Jun 11 2011 09:01pm
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Yeah, I figured you would say that.
Whether I'm right or wrong, you really are terrible at this.


terrible at recognizing ignorant people over the internet...send me to prison sir. go spend the time to learn about the subject before using that keyboard again unless you feel like looking stupid some more.
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Jun 11 2011 09:09pm
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terrible at recognizing ignorant people over the internet...send me to prison sir. go spend the time to learn about the subject before using that keyboard again unless you feel like looking stupid some more.


Well, just read an article. This is what I got out of it.
He grew up being taught that some lives simply weren't worth living, (herp derp, any connection?) and joined a group called the Stalhelm, which had the same ideology as the Nazis.
In 1938 he joined the SS, and he went through the ranks and gained power and influence.
I stopped reading at this point, since it, to me, confirmed my thoughts.

Sure, when he was extremely young he didn't show signs of what was to come, but he definitely grew into the mindset far before he gained the power he had.

http://www.trutv.com/library/crime/serial_killers/history/mengele/index_1.html

If this doesn't help, I am no longer talking to you, since you say the same thing over and over again, anyway.

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Jun 11 2011 09:21pm
Quote (Boogersnot308 @ Jun 11 2011 10:09pm)
Well, just read an article. This is what I got out of it.
He grew up being taught that some lives simply weren't worth living, (herp derp, any connection?) and joined a group called the Stalhelm, which had the same ideology as the Nazis.
In 1938 he joined the SS, and he went through the ranks and gained power and influence.
I stopped reading at this point, since it, to me, confirmed my thoughts.

Sure, when he was extremely young he didn't show signs of what was to come, but he definitely grew into the mindset far before he gained the power he had.

http://www.trutv.com/library/crime/serial%5Fkillers/history/mengele/index%5F1.html

If this doesn't help, I am no longer talking to you, since you say the same thing over and over again, anyway.


like i said he did not make those choices on his own. he was raised by monsters and made into a tool. look at his time as an everyday person with no signs of being a murderer then look at his time around mass murderers and thats when he started killing people. you're argument doesn't hold true since he never murdered before the nazi influence so how can you say he was always a murderer? he was as capable of you are to do terrible things but the difference between you and him is he was surrounded by those advocating it.
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Jun 11 2011 09:23pm
Quote (Psycho- @ 11 Jun 2011 20:21)
like i said he did not make those choices on his own. he was raised by monsters and made into a tool. look at his time as an everyday person with no signs of being a murderer then look at his time around mass murderers and thats when he started killing people. you're argument doesn't hold true since he never murdered before the nazi influence so how can you say he was always a murderer? he was as capable of you are to do terrible things but the difference between you and him is he was surrounded by those advocating it.


I'm done here.
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