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Quote (Panic_Fails_at_Diablo @ May 16 2011 03:08pm)
The only ways to travel faster than light are to either have negative mass, or create a worm hole. Creating a worm hole requires harnessing the energy of stars. Having negative mass is obviously impossible, so that's out of the question. Harnessing the energy of stars is technically possible, but do you really think we're going to become that technologically advanced within the next century? Obviously not, especially considering the fact that most space travel-related programs have lost much of their funding.


not true at all
in theory , its possible to use dark energy to warp space in front of and behind a spacecraft ( in fact , dark energy isnt the only way to do this )
the craft would not actually move at all , rather , the space it resides in would change posistions relative to the space posistions of earth , and its destination

and this is only the the knowaldge we have gained so far
as we progress , and gain a better and better understanding of things , so what we are able to imagine changes
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Quote (Panic_Fails_at_Diablo @ May 15 2011 11:08pm)
The only ways to travel faster than light are to either have negative mass, or create a worm hole. Creating a worm hole requires harnessing the energy of stars. Having negative mass is obviously impossible, so that's out of the question. Harnessing the energy of stars is technically possible, but do you really think we're going to become that technologically advanced within the next century? Obviously not, especially considering the fact that most space travel-related programs have lost much of their funding.


You don't actually know what will do it, nobody does. But technology is progressing so fast anything at this point is possible. We'll have men on Mars before the half century mark, probably earlier.

Funding at this point really doesn't matter, once the Mars missions become closer interest will rebound and more money will be speant. It doesn't even need to be space funding now, as long as technological advances continue its very possible.
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May 16 2011 07:52am
Quote (Poonisher @ May 15 2011 06:55am)
You need to consider something.

The closest solar system to our own (which would/could potentially harbor intelligent lifeforms; or any life for that matter) is over 4 light years away.

If "they" could even get here in the first place. then their technology > ours.

Bad troll is bad.


this lol if aliens were here they would be hundreds of thousands if not millions of more years advanced then us. them trying to make contact with us is just fucking stupid why would they? they can learn anything / everything that wanted to know with out saying a damn word to us the most logical thing to do is send a probe to the moon and just monitor us and scan our planet and scan us to get all the information they needed its unlikely then come here in person just send robots in there place the amount of effort and energy to send biological beings into space is 100000x harder then robots atm our intelligence compared to theirs would be an ant "us" rivaling a human "aliens" do we humans take the time and try and explain to a ant what a car is? let alone a super turn pike with 8 lanes? no we just watch and study them learning everything there is to know aliens wont try and contact us until were at least what a dog is to a human then there can be some interaction at least some level of understanding

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not true at all
in theory , its possible to use dark energy to warp space in front of and behind a spacecraft ( in fact , dark energy isnt the only way to do this )
the craft would not actually move at all , rather , the space it resides in would change posistions relative to the space posistions of earth , and its destination

and this is only the the knowaldge we have gained so far
as we progress , and gain a better and better understanding of things , so what we are able to imagine changes


Which still requires technology and knowledge far, far more advanced than our current level of understanding.

Quote (Caedus @ May 16 2011 07:22am)
You don't actually know what will do it, nobody does. But technology is progressing so fast anything at this point is possible. We'll have men on Mars before the half century mark, probably earlier.

Funding at this point really doesn't matter, once the Mars missions become closer interest will rebound and more money will be speant. It doesn't even need to be space funding now, as long as technological advances continue its very possible.


Manned missions to Mars are a far cry from FTL travel.
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May 16 2011 07:56am
Quote (Matao @ May 16 2011 05:57am)
not true at all
in theory , its possible to use dark energy to warp space in front of and behind a spacecraft ( in fact , dark energy isnt the only way to do this )
the craft would not actually move at all , rather , the space it resides in would change posistions relative to the space posistions of earth , and its destination

and this is only the the knowaldge we have gained so far
as we progress , and gain a better and better understanding of things , so what we are able to imagine changes


someone watches dr mikachu :D
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May 16 2011 08:04am
Quote (Caedus @ 16 May 2011 08:22)
You don't actually know what will do it, nobody does. But technology is progressing so fast anything at this point is possible.We'll have men on Mars before the half century mark, probably earlier.

Funding at this point really doesn't matter, once the Mars missions become closer interest will rebound and more money will be speant. It doesn't even need to be space funding now, as long as technological advances continue its very possible.


If humanity wasnt so fuckign stupid at puting their money at killing each other, we would be living on Mars right now.

And lol at this thread.

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If humanity wasnt so fuckign stupid at puting their money at killing each other, we would be living on Mars right now.


Why do you say this? Terra-forming the planet would take hundreds, if not thousands, of years, and our current technology isn't even remotely close to allowing us to live on Mars in a sort of Bio-dome or anything like that.
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Quote (Panic_Fails_at_Diablo @ May 17 2011 02:11am)
Why do you say this? Terra-forming the planet would take hundreds, if not thousands, of years, and our current technology isn't even remotely close to allowing us to live on Mars in a sort of Bio-dome or anything like that.


there is no 1 over arching thing that is " technology "
rather , there are many " technology's "
and what is prevalent depends alot on economic circumstance

an example

steam power was invented by the ancient greeks , over 2 thousand years ago ( it was used to open and close a door , of all things )
so , why didnt the greeks develop steam power to the extent that it could power " cars " and the like ?
becuase , who would do that , when they had slaves ?
it costs time and money to develop a technology , and no1 will pay for it , when there is no real payoff in sight

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May 16 2011 08:33am
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there is no 1 over arching thing that is " technology "
rather , there are many " technology's "
and what is prevalent depends alot on economic circumstance

an example

steam power was invented by the ancient greeks , over 2 thousand years ago ( it was used to open and close a door , of all things )
so , why didnt the greeks develop steam power to the extent that it could power " cars " and the like ?
becuase , who would do that , when they had slaves ?
it costs time and money to develop a technology , and no1 will pay for it , when there is no real payoff in sight


When someone says "technology," they usually mean technology as a whole. Man has stopped funding space exploration because they know that it's a fruitless venture(For now), and there are much more pressing matters to attend with on Earth. Even if there was no war, most of the funding would go to improving life on Earth, not to space agencies.
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May 16 2011 08:37am
Quote (Panic_Fails_at_Diablo @ May 17 2011 02:33am)
When someone says "technology," they usually mean technology as a whole. Man has stopped funding space exploration because they know that it's a fruitless venture(For now), and there are much more pressing matters to attend with on Earth. Even if there was no war, most of the funding would go to improving life on Earth, not to space agencies.


possibly
however , many see getting off this planet as a priority , as we refuse to limit our population in any significant way
even now , there are huge amounts being spent on " space " , which is not just the building of vehicles ,etc
not to mention , that seeing as we have a nation state system , efforts are replicated by nations over and again , rather than building continuously on previous achievements
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