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Mar 19 2011 11:02am

Quote (frankthetank00 @ Mar 19 2011 02:33am)

yea thats what i was refering to but he thought i was talking about prophecies, but who knows maybe they work in a similar way. its happened to me randomly too. Many people experience it and other phenomenon but it is subjective, and since we dont understand it some people rationalize it by saying you probly just did too much acid or made it up. It seems to me that subjectivity of individual conscious experience is just as valid as a reality as materialism. After all.. they form a balance and equally play upon one another. Your dreams may effect your life and vice versa. the matter that makes up this universe is ultimately illusory to us if you subscribe to quantum physics. By declaring that anything is even real or unreal is always relative to our perception. Many dont realize that we are also consciously asleep to what actually exists while we are physcially awake. Our physical senses decifer only a limited vibrational range of energies to perceive the outside physical universe as images, smells, feelings. Creating the illusion of solidity and separation. our waking state and dream state are linked by our consciousness which are both illusory in nature. so why judge something as real or fake if there is no evidence against it. You don't have to believe in it but by doubting it you rule out the possibility. isn't this the point of inception?.. that waking state and dream state are both real. seriously it was a cool movie and i think this is the message but if anyone has another view lemme know lol.

I don't doubt dreaming the future one bit. I just know that it is coincidence because your dreams are made up of your conscious experiences and thoughts along with 6 billion people dreaming one or two are likely to seem closer to the future. The problem is when people like you take something that is entirely within likely probability and extrapolate it to the supernatural with no evidence to back that claim up.

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Mar 19 2011 12:39pm

Quote (XceptionaL @ Mar 15 2011 01:41pm)

does anyone else practice this? any thoughts about it?

my grandfather used to do it frequently b4 he died, and taught my mum how to do it

my mum didn't like it (too scared) and only did it a couple of times

she told me how to do it, but i tried for years and could never do it

i guess only certain ppl can do it

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Mar 19 2011 01:03pm

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Mar 20 2011 08:25pm

Quote (bentherdonethat @ Mar 18 2011 07:45pm)

It's b-b-b-BULLSHIT. Everything supernatural probably is.

i agree with this about 90 percent. 10 percent of me still thinks there might be a supernatural element to this universe. but i doubt it

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Mar 20 2011 10:33pm

Quote (Osirislives @ Mar 20 2011 09:25pm)

i agree with this about 90 percent. 10 percent of me still thinks there might be a supernatural element to this universe. but i doubt it

define supernatural

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Mar 22 2011 12:29am

Quote (dothe @ Mar 20 2011 11:33pm)

define supernatural

well i guess i'm talking about advanced alien beings, not necessarily anything supernatural. but it'd be supernatural to us if they did exist

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Mar 22 2011 11:53am

To deny that astral projection exists is totally stupid many people practice it succesfully, what are u going to tell me next lucid dreaming doesnt exist? Lucid dreaming ive personally achieved many times.

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Mar 22 2011 06:18pm

Quote (TaZeR @ Mar 22 2011 12:53pm)

1.lucid dreaming is being aware that you are dreaming, while dreaming

2. astral projection is supposedly actually leaving your body and travelling outside of it.

saying that people practice astral projection successfully doesn't really make much sense to me, and i'd like to see the evidence of this.

number 1 is a product of the mind, whats to say that number 2 isn't as well?

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Mar 22 2011 07:16pm

Quote (Osirislives @ Mar 22 2011 08:18pm)

Everything is the mind we only perceive the universe the way we do because of our minds otherwise its just a big pool of random atoms that have no correlation twords eachother. Thats where lots of these philosphical arguments happen because we see reality a certain way and dont understand what it really is that we only see a fraction of whats there the rest is hidden to us because of the kind of lifeforms that we are. Its not really something u can explain because its not in our capacity to comprehend it.

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Mar 22 2011 08:39pm

Quote (TaZeR @ 22 Mar 2011 13:53)

You believe it exists because many people 'practice it successfully?' Please. Many people used to believe Zeus made lightning. Many people still believe Jesus was born on December 25th. Many people believe they will win the lottery.

Thanks to science, rational people don't have this problem. The scientific method proves hypotheses to be true or false. So far, no empirical evidence exists to successfully conduct an experiment proving any sort of spiritual, religious or esoteric claims. It is the duty of the scientist to never deny anything without due process. Still, I find it improbable to accept any of these claims are real without genuine, repeated proof, including astral projection.

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