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Dec 16 2010 06:56pm
Quote (nobrow @ Dec 17 2010 12:54am)
Good luck feeding only America without ammonia.


Sorry, whats your point?
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Dec 16 2010 06:59pm
Quote (P_Pepa @ Dec 16 2010 07:56pm)
Sorry, whats your point?


adding nutrients such as NH4 helps grow crops more efficiently = more mouth fed
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Dec 16 2010 07:06pm
Quote (QQL @ Dec 16 2010 06:59pm)
adding nutrients such as NH4 helps grow crops more efficiently =  more mouth fed


Also crops grown with ammonia aren't "organic", and don't bother starting with organic fertilizers...
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Also crops grown with ammonia aren't "organic", and don't bother starting with organic fertilizers...


people are hypocrites, saying fertilizers and genetic engineering should be stopped etc... retards don't truly understand the benefits to the society

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people are hypocrites, saying fertilizers and genetic engineering should be stopped etc... retards don't truly understand the benefits to the society


Yes, however it is extremely easy to take things such as farming for granted when there has always been more than enough food for you.
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Dec 17 2010 03:13am
lol@organic farming shit. its simply not possible to efficiently replace current farming methods with all natural alternatives...hell i wouldn't even call it an alternative more like hobby farming.
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Dec 17 2010 04:17am
We can produce enough to support the entire world.

If anyone has an understanding of nutrition or biochemistry (i know zeratul does), then you would probably understand that eatting things like refined carbohydrates (as found in HFCS), will supress the hormone leptin and you will end up eatting more, and usually the things people eat in America at least, are things that require a lot of products to make. Mainly corn.

We produce so much because we have such a huge farming subsidy that we are actually over producing on almost everything.

And also a point i would like to throw out there, the negative health effects of pesticide sprayed and gm foods aside, these foods are more perishable then their organic conterparts. The crop yield goes through a a bell curve. It will be very productive after the 2nd or 3rd growing season, but after that, the soil has been completely depleted. After a while, some of these crops have a lot of trouble growing.

For me, there is a noticable difference to how i feel when i eat gm food. And no its not just because i believe its "bad". Long story short, i didnt know i was eatting gm.

I agree that we should grow smarter and better, but gm foods is not the answer at all. Growing organic is much more cost efficient anyway. You dont have to buy seeds from Monsanto, you dont have to fertalize your field cause a smart farmer would be rotating crops, and you dont have to ship grains in for your dairy cows, since they should be eatting grass which grows anyway.


Quote (QQL @ 16 Dec 2010 16:58)
the kid made a stupid comment "adding fish gene to our tomato, yuck". I'm not saying hes dumb, he has good presentation skill for his age, but hes certainly not a genius.

and why the fuck are you telling me to research about genetic engineering, how about you research the benefits of modifying before you even talk

ungrateful kid, your probably against animal testing as well


actually i have done my research. Ive read numerous research publications and many books on the subject. I dont see any benefit to gm foods at all; and also holistic nutrition is my major.

This post was edited by Toothfariy on Dec 17 2010 04:17am
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Quote (Toothfariy @ Dec 1 2010 12:34am)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uaB6Bdgp3WU

He hits on so many points, and hes only 11

What do u guys think?


I think you got a hard-on from watching this and you're a pedophile.

-Cool kid can memorize a script written by someone else.
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Dec 17 2010 03:09pm
Quote (Toothfariy @ Dec 17 2010 05:17am)
We can produce enough to support the entire world.

If anyone has an understanding of nutrition or biochemistry (i know zeratul does), then you would probably understand that eatting things like refined carbohydrates (as found in HFCS), will supress the hormone leptin and you will end up eatting more, and usually the things people eat in America at least, are things that require a lot of products to make. Mainly corn.

We produce so much because we have such a huge farming subsidy that we are actually over producing on almost everything.

And also a point i would like to throw out there, the negative health effects of pesticide sprayed and gm foods aside, these foods are more perishable then their organic conterparts. The crop yield goes through a a bell curve. It will be very productive after the 2nd or 3rd growing season, but after that, the soil has been completely depleted. After a while, some of these crops have a lot of trouble growing.

For me, there is a noticable difference to how i feel when i eat gm food. And no its not just because i believe its "bad". Long story short, i didnt know i was eatting gm.

I agree that we should grow smarter and better, but gm foods is not the answer at all. Growing organic is much more cost efficient anyway. You dont have to buy seeds from Monsanto, you dont have to fertalize your field cause a smart farmer would be rotating crops, and you dont have to ship grains in for your dairy cows, since they should be eatting grass which grows anyway.




actually i have done my research. Ive read numerous research publications and many books on the subject. I dont see any benefit to gm foods at all; and also holistic nutrition is my major.


obviously there are cons for gm
but by god, if you don't see any benefits of g.m, your a fucking failure
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Quote (QQL @ 17 Dec 2010 15:09)
obviously there are cons for gm
but by god, if you don't see any benefits of g.m, your a fucking failure


show me what they are then. i do not see any as of right now, but id like to hear of these benefits if there are any
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