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#21
Nov 25 2010 10:54pm
Quote (jerds24 @ Nov 25 2010 11:48pm)
I propose to not be brainwashed by this kind of cheap spiritual shit.


says the brainwashed
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#22
Nov 26 2010 12:01am
Quote (samah @ Nov 25 2010 09:57pm)
As far as I’m aware of it didn’t...

It did whether you saw it or not, just like I existed before you saw me posting in this thread.

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It’s like being a judge out a court case you only hear 2 pieces of information you were not actually at the crime scene. Until you are at the crime scene or discover it by someone who you trust tells you, it really hasn’t taken place in your universe yet. The more we discover the more we create. I do believe in essence we are all one. So this means if you see it, you created for all.

This all sounds like rambling "philosophical" nonsense.

I'm actually watching this video from the first post now, so I'll comment on it sooner or later.
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Nov 26 2010 12:38am
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It did whether you saw it or not, just like I existed before you saw me posting in this thread.


This all sounds like rambling "philosophical" nonsense.

I'm actually watching this video from the first post now, so I'll comment on it sooner or later.


you didnt exist to me dont you see :p
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#24
Nov 26 2010 12:46am
Quote (samah @ Nov 25 2010 11:54pm)
says the brainwashed


nah, im not believing in these "new age" stuf.
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#25
Nov 26 2010 12:51am
Quote (samah @ Nov 26 2010 01:38am)
you didnt exist to me dont you see :p

What you're talking about isn't existence. You're talking about something that's philosophical nonsense. All trees on earth make sound when they fall, whether or not a person hears it. That's an indisputable fact.

This video's fundamental flaw is the fact that it sort of hinges on the idea that a person is required for an "observation" to be made. This is not the accepted viewpoint in quantum mechanics, and hasn't been since around the time of the Schrodinger's Cat thought experiment, when the Geiger counter's detecting radiation constituted an observation. Put more simply, when something on the quantum scale interacts with something else, THAT is an observation which collapses the wave function.
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Nov 26 2010 01:03am
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What you're talking about isn't existence. You're talking about something that's philosophical nonsense. All trees on earth make sound when they fall, whether or not a person hears it. That's an indisputable fact.

This video's fundamental flaw is the fact that it sort of hinges on the idea that a person is required for an "observation" to be made. This is not the accepted viewpoint in quantum mechanics, and hasn't been since around the time of the Schrodinger's Cat thought experiment, when the Geiger counter's detecting radiation constituted an observation. Put more simply, when something on the quantum scale interacts with something else, THAT is an observation which collapses the wave function.


even if nobody is in the forest, the microphone will record the sound as well, t4t^^
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Nov 26 2010 05:45am
Quote (bentherdonethat @ Nov 26 2010 01:51am)
What you're talking about isn't existence. You're talking about something that's philosophical nonsense. All trees on earth make sound when they fall, whether or not a person hears it. That's an indisputable fact.

This video's fundamental flaw is the fact that it sort of hinges on the idea that a person is required for an "observation" to be made. This is not the accepted viewpoint in quantum mechanics, and hasn't been since around the time of the Schrodinger's Cat thought experiment, when the Geiger counter's detecting radiation constituted an observation. Put more simply, when something on the quantum scale interacts with something else, THAT is an observation which collapses the wave function.


hmmm Fact? [YOUTUBE] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OA3WGf9pX0A[/YOUTUBE]

Quote (jerds24 @ Nov 26 2010 02:03am)
even if nobody is in the forest, the microphone will record the sound as well, t4t^^


Only thing is... You hearing the sound recorded makes it so.
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#28
Nov 26 2010 08:36am
Quote (samah @ Nov 26 2010 06:45am)
hmmm Fact? [YOUTUBE] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OA3WGf9pX0A[/YOUTUBE]

Yes, fact. You're wrong in thinking that a person is necessary for an observation to be made.
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