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vouch.

This post was edited by VereorNusquam on Oct 21 2010 04:37pm

Wow... go back to your bridge and read a fuckin book, you might learn somthing



It actually wasnt until sometime in the 1800's that cancer first appeared in medcial records. The spike in cancer rates goes hand in hand with the industrial revolution. It is realtively a new disease.

This post was edited by Toothfariy on Oct 21 2010 04:41pm

Please tell me which book you have read that says ADD is 100% curable by eating certain foods.

you arent even understandin his argument, are you?

Obviously not



I do not the exactly physiological contruct of ADD. However, what i do know is that one of our main neurotransmitters called norepinephrine, cannot be made without the right building blocks. DHEA and other trace amino acid constituants are needed to properly make norepinephrine. DHEA is also esstential in making the sex hormones testosterone, estrogen, and pregnenolone. Where do you find DHEA? Not in any prescription medication; especially not adderall, otherwise it would be listed as a nutritional supplement. We find it in the food we eat, along with our basic amino acids. It is like this with MANY other things not just ADD.

The standard westernized diet consists of very poor quality, very refined and nutrient barren foods, which has extremely low amounts of these building blocks. Hippocrates "the father of modern medecine" was always an advocate of food before medecine. We can fix so many chronic problems simply by adjusting our diet.

But thats beside the point, wtf do you think Adderal actually does? It effects brain chemistry just like food does, only it is isolating a singular thing and not addressing the whole problem.

So please, come back to me when you've read a book on neurophysiology and understand what is acutally happening

This post was edited by Toothfariy on Oct 21 2010 05:09pm

@ bolded - They didn't have medicine like we do now in days of Hippocrates, so no big surprise there.

What's your point? Eating the right foods might help in some cases with mild ADD but for somebody with serious ADD problems, Adderall can work wonders. Is it prescribed to way too many people? Probably, but that's beside the point.

If you knew somebody who actually needs Adderall to function normally you might understand that eating more broccoli isn't going to fix shit.

This post was edited by Phisherman on Oct 21 2010 06:24pm

You are seriously one of the most ignorant people i've ever met

A while back, i had a severe duodenal ulcer. Now i dont know how many people have experienced this, but it is nearly impossible to function. It is like a machine is running around constantly stabbing your stomach. The only thing you can focus on is ending the pain, and believe me when i say its painful, and it stays all day all night. I had that for 8 months until it started to get better.

I went to my doctor 6 times to try to get help. All he knew how to do was to put me on some other kind of medecine. Prilotec OTC, Antacids, etc. None of them offered a long term result. Most of the time, i had relief for about a day or two, then it would come back even worse than before. The problem was not my lack of those medecines, but it was the food i was eatting that was perpetuating this problem. This is how i got into the nutrition field. I changed my diet, and within a month, i was able to turn this around.

All of the research and books ive read have shown that there is a spike in ADD that goes along with the advent of HFCS, artificial ingredients, etc etc etc. This is somthing that can and should be addressed nutritionally, and it can and has been done.

It may not be the end all final solution for all, but in mostly all cases changing to a better diet will help a lot.

and i will emphasize one point i made eariler, Adderall offers temporary support, but in no way addresses the underlying issue. The issue is not a lack of adderall in the body.

If you still dont understand this, then go read a book call: Nutrition and Physical Degeneration by Weston A. Price, and learn somthing.

Why are there so many overdiagnoses of ADHD/ADD? The answer is potentially a simple one, it may be to some that the pharmaceutical industry wants your money to buy their drugs, or, that doctors/parents/teachers/etc simply do not know the boundaries of "normal" hyperactivity, and hyperactivity that is potentially problematic.

Why has the disorder only recently been diagnosed, and so often at that? Because nowadays, many kids have crap diets, because they are given what they WANT to eat, and more in quantity overall, by doting parents, and most foods marketed for children are full of sugar/fat/additives etc. All that energy needs to be expelled somehow, resulting in a hyperactivity, that surrounding adults may pick up on as ADHD. Furthermore, elements of psychology have been brought forth by the popular media, who go completely over-the-top in their pseudo-scientific articles, fake cover stories, and scare-mongering, like "Bad Kids Need Drugs to Make Them Normal" with a picture of a stereotypically anti-social youth on the front...you know what I mean.

If doctors received more training in how to diagnose, and parents were less quick to themselves diagnose a disorder like ADHD because they read it in a copy of The Daily Express or something, then drugs such as Ritalin/Adderall would not be so widely produced.

Couldnt agree more

I think ADD and ADHD are over-diagnosed. Yes, there are some children who need it, but most of the time they don't. I think it's disgusting that medication is pushed so much in America. Most of the time, the kid isn't getting enough attention at home and/or is immature.