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Jun 29 2010 12:26pm
Quote (Sioux @ 28 Jun 2010 19:25)
That isn't a biased website or anything. They're selling you a product. Information should be free, and it is. Try looking up some research on pubmed or google scholar.

Still, how do you retort to the fact that our ancestors ate large amounts of meat which is responsible for our brain development? Our brain is filled with fats derived from protein, which the most readily available source prior to the advent of agriculture was meat. Even after the advent of agriculture, plants rich in proteins weren't widely consumed, those are a rather new phenomena.

Hunter-gatherer bitches.

Edit: Rofl. Looking through that site makes me laugh. They link to an alternative cancer site that says cancer can be treated through bowel semiannual bowel cleansings. Good luck with that. Honestly though, shit like this makes me sick. It pushes quack medicine on people who could otherwise be cured through conventional means, and by the time they give up on these ridiculous treatments its usually too late to save them.

And you're saying meat eating is evil. Profiting off people's fear and desperation is much, much worse.


To be fair, the process of hunting also contributed to the growth of the brain. Those who could communicate, plan, and work together better would be better hunters and would be more likely to survive. What makes you better at communicating, planning, and working together? Your brain, so you get natural selection favoring smarter people and not just more meat allowing the brain to grow larger.

also lol @ the person who says we should eat equal parts meat and equal parts fruits/vegetables. Being omnivorous means we evolved to be able to eat meat in addition to plants, that doesn't mean we should eat equal parts.
Our stomachs show how we have evolved to not be herbivorous and also evolved to take advantage of cooking food.

I can't decide which group I dislike more, the "moral" meat is murder vegetarians/vegans or the alternative "health" nuts who completely ignore human evolution.
No problem with people who do it because eating meat makes them feel bad, or do it for religious reasons, just don't like meat, or have just decided that the diet is just preferential for them personally.
Just because the average American diet is bad and filled with too many processed foods and meat does not go and make vegetarian/vegan the ultimate human diet.
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Jun 29 2010 03:33pm
Quote (DACollins12 @ Jun 27 2010 03:46pm)
No one can argue against the topic, if they know the facts. If anyone thinks that how we raise the animals and produce meat, has no affect on the planet and many health problems to individuals, does not know the facts, is not educated and is brainwashed in being led to believe meat is "good" for you.


Saying 'Meat is the problem' is asinine. For millions of years, life has subsisted by eating other life. That's just the way life works, so you should accept that and get over it.
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Jun 30 2010 03:43pm
A little late but whatever.

Quote (DACollins12 @ 27 Jun 2010 16:46)
No one can argue against the topic, if they know the facts. If anyone thinks that how we raise the animals and produce meat, has no affect on the planet and many health problems to individuals, does not know the facts, is not educated and is brainwashed in being led to believe meat is "good" for you. Please, do not comment if you do not know what you're talking about. I couldn't list all the negative things about it, but i will list some big big things a lot of us Americans do not know about.

More than 1/2 of our fresh water supply is used for animals we will eventually eat.
Global Warming due to Forest destruction for grazing lands for animals we will eventually eat.  <-- Its global climate change now, didn't you get the memo?
Animal meat is the #1 DEATH and cause of DISEASE in America.  <-- no its not, prove it. It probably assist's in the majority of deaths & disease but isn't the sole cause and culprit.
The biggest reason Government backs up meat production - MONEY
The biggest reason FALSE "healthy diets" are all over T.V., Magazenes and givin to you by a "doctor" - MONEY. This is because we can brainwash human beings to eat the meat, obtain the diseases so now we can make drugs, create Cancer Treatments - JUST TO MAKE MORE MONEY - all the while we destroy our planet, torture animals and basically poison ourselves early in life so when we grow older, we will be dependent on these "drugs."

If you think i am full of shit, there is plenty of TRUE EVIDENCE all over the place. Whether you choose to see it or not is up to you. If you are truly that ignorant to say something like "meat is too good to let go," or "i love meat and support all of its causes," you have been brainwashed since BIRTH, and it will take true STRENGTH to change your ways. Its easy to feed the weakness. Its easier to take a pill for a side-effect, rather than change your ways to solve the CAUSE. Basically, it's easier to Destroy than it is to prevent or heal.

Since most people do not like to read books or seek out information you have to read, watching a movie is easy! If anyone gets the time, watch the movie called "Eating."


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Jun 30 2010 04:14pm
You don't need to stop eating meat. People just need to stop eating so god damn much of it. It's the entire "lets eat a huge steak every night and become obese fat fucks" attitude that's fucking everything up.
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Jul 2 2010 01:49am
OP is probably some emo kid who calls himself a proud veggie head.
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Jul 2 2010 06:24am
Quote (Sioux @ Jun 27 2010 03:58pm)
Tastes good though.


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Jul 2 2010 09:47pm
its true but theres nothing u can do about it, and we will be dead by the time our envirement is destroyed anyways
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Jul 2 2010 09:56pm
Damn '10 vegans.
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Jul 4 2010 10:11pm
Balance.
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