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May 20 2010 08:56am
Quote (87regal @ May 20 2010 12:44am)
the earth is the center of the universe the sun revolves around it and its flat..... also burn the witch!!


Ofc it is, that's so obvious!
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May 21 2010 02:13pm
No disrespect, but most of your arguments are built on faulty logic :(

The lack of evidence for something is not evidence against something.

For example, take a complex structure like the human eye. Just because we do not know how it evolved does not mean it didn't evolve.

The same reasoning applies to "missing links" in the fossil record and the Cambrian explosion.
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May 21 2010 02:21pm
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evolution has been proven...


technically science does not "prove" anything, though we often use words like prove, fact, law, etc.

hypotheses can only be disproven, not proven

the reason hypotheses cannot be proven is that there may be knowledge you dont know that can affect the conclusion you make

thus it is better to say that "science has shown that it is extremely likely that..." or "scientists have attained great evidence showing that.."
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May 21 2010 03:31pm
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evolution has been proven...


nope
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May 22 2010 12:23am
fact is if we are gods almighty creation we would have the best of everything. but in fact we lack in pretty much every area but intelligence.
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May 22 2010 12:27am
if you have the time for a tl;dr thread, debate it here please.
http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=43889495&f=119
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For example, take a complex structure like the human eye. Just because we do not know how it evolved does not mean it didn't evolve.

The same reasoning applies to "missing links" in the fossil record and the Cambrian explosion.


So, so true.

i just cant wait for a time when these things can be explained so dumb-ass creationists cant use the pathetic "eye" arguement anymore....

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May 25 2010 07:29am
Quote (Mike_Hawk @ May 25 2010 08:11am)
So, so true.

i just cant wait for a time when these things can be explained so dumb-ass creationists cant use the pathetic "eye" arguement anymore....


It is getting old...But i don't think they have any other arguments :(
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May 27 2010 05:34pm
Gods have long been used to describe why certain physical phenomenon occur. For example, questions such as why the sun rises each day, why it rains, why it snows, why crops grow, why crops die, why good or bad things happen, why shooting stars exist and what they mean, why there are tides, the reasons for thunder and lightning, and literally countless other occurrences have been attributed to the Gods.

Just because science does not have an explanation for something does not mean that it will never have an explanation for it. Every single one of the above mentioned phenomenon is now considered trivial scientifically. Based on the history of scientific discovery, and the rate at which we are progressing, is it so impossible to assume that in the years to come science will not have a definite answer for precisely how evolution took place? It is undeniable that soon discoveries will be made that are completely incomprehensible today. Just as it is unlikely that the Ancient Mayan's, who were far more progressed than the other cultures of their time, never considered understanding how to split an atom, it is absurd to assume that humans of this day and age are ready to understand the complexities regarding evolution or the beginning of the universe.

Must science explain every single possible detail about the existence of the universe before the need for a supreme being or creator is obsolete?

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Gods have long been used to describe why certain physical phenomenon occur. For example, questions such as why the sun rises each day, why it rains, why it snows, why crops grow, why crops die, why good or bad things happen, why shooting stars exist and what they mean, why there are tides, the reasons for thunder and lightning, and literally countless other occurrences have been attributed to the Gods.

Just because science does not have an explanation for something does not mean that it will never have an explanation for it. Every single one of the above mentioned phenomenon is now considered trivial scientifically. Based on the history of scientific discovery, and the rate at which we are progressing, is it so impossible to assume that in the years to come science will not have a definite answer for precisely how evolution took place? It is undeniable that soon discoveries will be made that are completely incomprehensible today. Just as it is unlikely that the Ancient Mayan's, who were far more progressed than the other cultures of their time, never considered understanding how to split an atom, it is absurd to assume that humans of this day and age are ready to understand the complexities regarding evolution or the beginning of the universe.

Must science explain every single possible detail about the existence of the universe before the need for a supreme being or creator is obsolete?


the problem is until our society gets more intelligent we will still have too many morons than can't comprehend modern science therefore think its fake and then turn to religion.
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