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Jan 11 2010 06:24am
Quote (pwb3 @ 11 Jan 2010 02:43)
No one can answer this question without the Bible.

Drugs and alcohol will not fill the empty hole in your heart. This is what millions of people are attempting to do today.

There is a meaning of life, but if you believe in evolution, you will never get the answer you're looking for.

Evolution = we are here by pure accident = we are completely worthless.

Up to him which he wants to believe in: the government-controlled education from public schools, or the Bible.


lol... lol... lol

How can you believe that crap? I would much rather accept the reality of things than delude myself with some illusion to make myself feel comfortable... To me... The natural explanation of things is much greater than just saying "god did it"...

Coming into existence through natural processes should make you feel more special than "god did it".

Just thinking about the almost impossible series of events that made it possible for you to stand here today and think about this problem, or no? you would rather think you being alive today is nothing special since some supreme being just made you... What does that make you? someone's pet? probably less than that.

Or perhaps you just like thinking that the meaning of your life is to be someone's bitch? (Gods'... You praise him? worship him? do what he supposedly wants you to do... think about it? Your god's bitch).

/edit Also i can see you are not very well educated, i suggest learning a bit more before trying to answer such a question... Evolution DOES NOT explain where life came from... It only explains how it proceeded (evolved) after it came into existence.

Evolution != We are here by pure accident... Evolution does not even try to explain how we are here, it explains what happens after we are here.

And you can't tell me that the result of millions of years of evolution is worthless?... What is worthless is if we were created as we are now, where is the hardship in that? Things that are easy to get mean nothing, and whats easier than "god did it".


This post was edited by emkoirl on Jan 11 2010 06:33am
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Jan 11 2010 06:54am
What if God was the one who made Evolution in the first place? He started the world and then the world evolved from then one from up to where we are up to right now.

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Or perhaps you just like thinking that the meaning of your life is to be someone's bitch? (Gods'... You praise him? worship him? do what he supposedly wants you to do... think about it? Your god's bitch).



You seem to be twisting the words around a bit which is what Satan likes to do. Yes we praise him and worship him but God has given us free will so we can do whatever we want. He tells us to follow him through circumstances in life or through other people but he does not force us to do it. We can accept him or reject him. Think of God as your parents, they tell you what to do from time to time but they don't force you to do anything. If you choose not to do something then there are consequences for that action. Now we still praise and and try to be better people and it is a good thing to be on the same side as God and to let him into your lives. God has something very special planned for us in the afterlife.

Now I see God as a kind of God who gives us just what we need kind of thing and not what we really want. He does deliver to us what we ask for and opportunity but not in the way that we would like to think. I guess he is saving up for what we will get in heaven. Now even though we are given eternal life forever from here on in, that doesn't mean that this lifetime here on Earth is meaningless.

What is the purpose of the eye? To see things like colour and the beauty that God has made. What is the purpose of the ear? To hear things like the voices we have been given. The noses purpose is to smell things like flowers and...well...farts. Our legs were created so we can get from place to place and I can go on and name every single body part, muscle and bone. Every single one of those parts serves a purpose in life and we all know what it is. Now the only thing that seems to have been not figured out is why are wehere as a whole? You can name every single thing in the world, be it an item or a part to an entire thing and know what it is intended to do can't you?

Now you really should be looking at the question, WHY ARE YOU HERE? It doesn't matter why life was created really but why have YOU been put here on this Earth? You are here for a reason and it is up to YOU to find that reason.
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Jan 11 2010 10:45am
im an atheist , dont rly have probs with this oO
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Jan 11 2010 02:16pm
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What if God was the one who made Evolution in the first place? He started the world and then the world evolved from then one from up to where we are up to right now.



You seem to be twisting the words around a bit which is what Satan likes to do. Yes we praise him and worship him but God has given us free will so we can do whatever we want. He tells us to follow him through circumstances in life or through other people but he does not force us to do it. We can accept him or reject him. Think of God as your parents, they tell you what to do from time to time but they don't force you to do anything. If you choose not to do something then there are consequences for that action. Now we still praise and and try to be better people and it is a good thing to be on the same side as God and to let him into your lives. God has something very special planned for us in the afterlife.

Now I see God as a kind of God who gives us just what we need kind of thing and not what we really want. He does deliver to us what we ask for and opportunity but not in the way that we would like to think. I guess he is saving up for what we will get in heaven. Now even though we are given eternal life forever from here on in, that doesn't mean that this lifetime here on Earth is meaningless.

What is the purpose of the eye? To see things like colour and the beauty that God has made. What is the purpose of the ear? To hear things like the voices we have been given. The noses purpose is to smell things like flowers and...well...farts. Our legs were created so we can get from place to place and I can go on and name every single body part, muscle and bone. Every single one of those parts serves a purpose in life and we all know what it is. Now the only thing that seems to have been not figured out is why are wehere as a whole? You can name every single thing in the world, be it an item or a part to an entire thing and know what it is intended to do can't you?

Now you really should be looking at the question, WHY ARE YOU HERE? It doesn't matter why life was created really but why have YOU been put here on this Earth? You are here for a reason and it is up to YOU to find that reason.


"What if god created evolution...": Yeah that is entirely possible, but how then do you explain god? Who made him? how did he come into existence?... Thinking like that leads to nowhere and answers nothing, all it does is open up so many more unanswered questions.

How can you say that this "god" character is not trying to force us to anything? (I will assume you are referring to one of the mass religions' gods' such as christianity since you are talking about the devil)... God is essentially threatening everyone if they do not believe in him (eternity in hell is not very loving now is it?).
Your god is a hypocrite.

I can safely bet that your morals are greater than that of this "god" person you wish to praise and worship... Even if he really did exist (I am not saying he does), I would not praise or worship him because he simply does not deserve it, he has not earned any of that.

God is simply a bully saying "Praise me or you will suffer my wrath". I don't see a reason to worship such a fictional character.

How can you say "god gives us what we need..", take a look around the world... Millions of people die from starvation every day... Where is god to give THEM what THEY need? Or is your god so corrupt that he favors certain people over others...

As far as the body parts go, I can also give so many reasons for each one, none of which have ANYTHING to do with god... But more to do with Survival (Thank evolution for that).

Oh and there are so many items in the world that are not intended to do anything... Lets see off the top of my head.. an easy one? Appendix?... If we were "Designed" then why do we have something as useless as an appendix, or did god make a mistake?


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Quote (emkoirl @ Jan 12 2010 06:16am)
"What if god created evolution...": Yeah that is entirely possible, [B]but how then do you explain god? Who made him? how did he come into existence?... Thinking like that leads to nowhere and answers nothing, all it does is open up so many more unanswered questions.

How can you say that this "god" character is not trying to force us to anything? (I will assume you are referring to one of the mass religions' gods' such as christianity since you are talking about the devil)... God is essentially threatening everyone if they do not believe in him (eternity in hell is not very loving now is it?).
Your god is a hypocrite.

I can safely bet that your morals are greater than that of this "god" person you wish to praise and worship... Even if he really did exist (I am not saying he does), I would not praise or worship him because he simply does not deserve it, he has not earned any of that.

God is simply a bully saying "Praise me or you will suffer my wrath". I don't see a reason to worship such a fictional character.

How can you say "god gives us what we need..", take a look around the world... Millions of people die from starvation every day... Where is god to give THEM what THEY need? Or is your god so corrupt that he favors certain people over others...

As far as the body parts go, I can also give so many reasons for each one, none of which have ANYTHING to do with god... But more to do with Survival (Thank evolution for that).

Oh and there are so many items in the world that are not intended to do anything... Lets see off the top of my head.. an easy one? Appendix?... If we were "Designed" then why do we have something as useless as an appendix, or did god make a mistake?[/B]


Answer to those first questions is that God always was. He was here at the very beginning of where it all started, Genesis 1 will tell you that. Now I am going the Christianity route because, well I'm a Christian. Now sometimes I do wonder if God makes us do stuff because he has a plan for us in the future. We just don't know what it is yet. The journey is hard but the reward is great, in the end.

Now God isn't threatening us he is telling us to follow him and it is our choice to listen to him or not to listen to him. There is a difference between the two. But in the end we have a choice to say yes to God "Heaven" or No to God and follow our own path "Hell." Now whenever I've had tough times going on in my life and I try to get it out it myself I just can't do it. But the moment I turn to God for help and guidance then the problem slowly dissipates and I am no longer in trouble.

Now because of him being so kind and giving (He merely showed me the way and I chose to take that way hence giving us just what we needed and not what we wanted, which was God to take care of the situation FOR US) I WANT to praise and worship him and gladly follow him to the very end. Now OUR God created the Universe and everything inside it, how would you like to meet the creator of the Universe? The one who made it all possible at all? Now if you see him in real you would always want to worship them for giving you life.

As for God making a mistake, he NEVER makes a mistake. He knows everything that is going to happen and he can turn a wrong into a right. Perhaps the appendix does serve a purpose, we just don't know what it does yet. We just have to figure out what the appendix does, just like we have to find the meaning of why we are here at all?
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Jan 11 2010 08:59pm
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the meaning of life, is to live


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Jan 11 2010 10:02pm
Quote (pwb3 @ Jan 10 2010 09:43pm)
No one can answer this question without the Bible.

Drugs and alcohol will not fill the empty hole in your heart. This is what millions of people are attempting to do today.

There is a meaning of life, but if you believe in evolution, you will never get the answer you're looking for.

Evolution = we are here by pure accident = we are completely worthless.

Up to him which he wants to believe in: the government-controlled education from public schools, or the Bible.


Lol'd.

That is because just like anything else, you have to create you own meaning of life. Perhaps you should try think for yourself and not simplemindedly believe a book.

Evolution does have a purpose dumb ass. Try paying attention in school?

Simple theory of evolution:
Step 1. A species exists in an environment.
Step 2. As the species reproduces, slit characteristics change. aka a small mutation.
Step 3. If the mutation benefits the species in said environment, it reproduces more successfully than weaker versions of the species.

Thus the reason for evolution is, survival of the fittest.

You dumbass piece of shit, the government enjoys the bible. The president is sworn in on a fucking bible. Gay marriage is outlawed cuz the bible. There are dumbasses like you because of the bible.

So all in all, if you are looking for the meaning of life, do whatever makes you happy. Do what the fuck ever you want to do. Believe what you want to believe.
Enjoy the little things. If you want to be successful, be successful. If you prefer mediocrity, thats fine as well.
Do whatever makes you happy, or even content.
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Jan 12 2010 04:06am
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Jan 12 2010 05:26am
The point of living is to die.
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