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Jul 22 2009 10:38pm
science is fake.
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Jul 23 2009 09:00pm
Quote (Cadet133 @ Fri, Jul 10 2009, 01:58am)
Alot of people try to connect the dots between religion an evolution and quite frankly I try to also because I do believe that species change over time. What I dont believe is the fact that God does not exist. Yes I know you guys would say that there is no proof that god exists but is there proof that god does not exist?

You say the Big Bang theory was some massive energy explosion that converted energy into mass (atoms etc) and those atoms somehow found their way to evolve and evolve into Humans and Jackasses. But where did that energy come from? A wise thing to say is energy cannot be destroyed nor created so basically thats saying that energy was there from the beginning but that would mean we can say the same that God was there from the beginning.

My question is where is the energy that supposedly started everything come from? You cannot say that it was there from the beginning because then that wouldn't be science........

We can't say that we can prove god does not exist because its beyond our imaginations. God is a supreme being meaning his mind is far different than our mind. If god gave us the ability to comprehend his existance then thats equivalent as saying our mind = gods mind and thats not true..........


Heh
ITs all a theory
i like your thinking thou x)

what made god then
btw


This post was edited by ericrower on Jul 23 2009 09:02pm
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to add to the previous post...

Religion has always been used to understand that which is beyond our scientific understanding at one time... Don't forget... lightning (which science can now explain) used to be created by the gods and throne to the ground when they were angry...

If somebody doesn't understand something and especially if they are scared of it, it is just easier and sometimes even more practical to explain it away by religion... Of course cave men couldn't understand scientifically lightning, they didn't have the scientific technique, the critical thinking skills, the technology... etc... to even begin to hope to explain it... so they gave it religious meaning.

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There is a great lecture and presentation that I had attendend on this very topic of creationism and evolution. Of course this is apart the whole God topic though. You may want to listen to some of Harun Yahya's lectures and take a look at his presentations.
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Quote (demorior @ Thu, Jul 23 2009, 04:38am)
science is fake.


not to mention that it's veery veery evil :angry:

i say we start burning scientists like we did back in the good old days of witch hunts

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There is a great lecture and presentation that I had attendend on this very topic of creationism and evolution. Of course this is apart the whole God topic though. You may want to listen to some of Harun Yahya's lectures and take a look at his presentations.


Harun Yahya is a fraud passing around pseudoscientific crap and down right lies to those that lack knowledge of the sciences. The misinformation this man spreads is disgusting.

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Aug 13 2009 12:26pm
Have fun proving ANYTHING.
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Quote (Cadet133 @ Thu, Jul 9 2009, 08:58pm)
Alot of people try to connect the dots between religion an evolution and quite frankly I try to also because I do believe that species change over time. What I dont believe is the fact that God does not exist. Yes I know you guys would say that there is no proof that god exists but is there proof that god does not exist?

You say the Big Bang theory was some massive energy explosion that converted energy into mass (atoms etc) and those atoms somehow found their way to evolve and evolve into Humans and Jackasses. But where did that energy come from? A wise thing to say is energy cannot be destroyed nor created so basically thats saying that energy was there from the beginning but that would mean we can say the same that God was there from the beginning.

My question is where is the energy that supposedly started everything come from? You cannot say that it was there from the beginning because then that wouldn't be science........

We can't say that we can prove god does not exist because its beyond our imaginations. God is a supreme being meaning his mind is far different than our mind. If god gave us the ability to comprehend his existance then thats equivalent as saying our mind = gods mind and thats not true..........


You actually answered your own question, however some of your facts about the big bang are incorrect. The "Big Bang" Theory suggests that at one point in VERY distant history all the universe was compacted into a very small amount of space, constantly becoming more compact due to gravity. However, when you compact matter it does begin to throw off heat energy and this heat energy occured all at once (in a Bang) throwing material all across the Universe. Now, as far as the question, "How did some random molecules combine to become a single living organism?" The odds of this happening are sooo minuscule but not exactly unlikely. The odds of it happening could even be once in the entire universe! But that once was at the beginning as life on Earth as we know it and if it hadn't been on our Earth, it would have been on another Earth... We simply cannot seem to understand that we are the miracle group of molecules that somehow combined in the right way to create the first single celled organism.

If I have left anything out feel free to continue this debate.

This post was edited by UMOrganDonor on Aug 13 2009 12:48pm
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Aug 13 2009 01:22pm
ugh, gtfo venomfangx
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Aug 13 2009 05:31pm
Quote (evilnemesis @ Thu, Jul 9 2009, 09:09pm)
Theory, keyword.


Right there lol.
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