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Jun 12 2009 12:07am
Quote (inkanddagger @ Thu, Jun 11 2009, 07:00pm)
It isn't happening now because of solar radiation. It plays a part for certain, but right now global cooling from solar radiation decrease is much less prevalent than entropic thermal crisis within the atmosphere.

Carbon pollution isn't just causing global warming either. My largest concern it it's effects on the food chain as the waters of the planet become acidified.


I would consider many other pollutants to be more harmful to marine life.

Carbonic acid is pretty weak, unstable at STP and as I recall binds with inorganic material pretty well to form bicarbonates. I haven't research it but I would surmise that is why there is so much limestone around.

CO2 levels have been way higher in the past. I've been wondering if something like an Azolla Event will happen again if they get to high.

Here is a link on that for everyone. :)

http://www.absoluteastronomy.com/topics/Azolla_eventL

Before you argue it, I understand as we know it human civilization and population may take a big hit before we get to that point. :o I haven't ran any numbers yet. :lol:

So backtracking to an earlier train of thought, a warm trend seems more prevalent yes but if a cold snap intervenes it would be much worse, though less likely statistically so far.
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global warming + nuclear winter = 0
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Quote (TheNothingness @ Fri, Jun 12 2009, 01:15am)
global warming + nuclear winter = 0


Do you have any useful references or statistics on that Mr. Lysergic acid diethylamide avatar man?
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Quote (WhirlingDervish @ Thu, Jun 11 2009, 11:34pm)
Do you have any useful references or statistics on that Mr. Lysergic acid diethylamide avatar man?


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Quote (TheNothingness @ Fri, Jun 12 2009, 01:37am)
futurama>star wars imo


Bite my shiny metal...... uh light saber. :P

Seriously, if you have some good info post it plox. :rofl:
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Quote (WhirlingDervish @ Thu, Jun 11 2009, 11:52pm)
Bite my shiny metal...... uh light saber. :P

Seriously, if you have some good info post it plox. :rofl:


nah im just bored
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Quote (WhirlingDervish @ Thu, Jun 11 2009, 10:43pm)
Sure that is the idea of global climate change except I thought ocean currents were more important than the jet stream. The global cooling people I'm hearing from are of the thinking this lack of solar activity may cause the cooling.

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In the past it would seem excessive volcanic activity helps cool the planet not warm it up.

Do you have a reference for the pole ice statement?

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Do you have references on this information?


Yes, excessive volcanic activity causes cooling, but since I was talking about a period where the whole earth was frozen, the only way for such a cycle to break is tectonic activity. Once a part of the land ice has been molten, it will not instantly regrow. And volcanic eruptions the size of Yellowstone and the like spew so much gases into the air, that it could eventually cause a greenhouse effect.

I got my facts out of http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Short_History_of_Nearly_Everything, which has references itself.

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Quote (WhirlingDervish @ Wed, Jun 10 2009, 04:09pm)
http://data.giss.nasa.gov/gistemp/2008/Fig4_s.gif

Go go gadget NASA data!

The temperature is beginning to take a downturn but it is still high.


Haha, wow, what a moron.

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Jun 16 2009 04:20am
Global warming is happening, not cooling.
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Quote (hammerofnight @ Tue, Jun 16 2009, 10:20am)
Global warming is happening, not cooling.


Yes, but does that mean we're currently warmer than we're supposed to be? I'm afraid not, since much warmer periods have existed in the history of planet Earth. Much cooler periods aswell. The only question we should ask is if the climate is warming up faster than supposed, and to reference current data we don't have enough from previous times.
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