Is science.

Intelligent Design is that some creatures are too complex cellularly to be the product of evolution, Ex. the Bacterial Flagellum

That isn't science, that is an argument from ignorance.

You can't just say there's a limit on the complexity of the life form evolution affects, or a limit on the complexity of the variations in any given life form and say that God has to have intervened at this set limit.
Doing that just seems a bit suspicious, especially when you observe how much this idea of putting a limit on a theory is just as impossible to definitively prove or disprove as any other faith-driven idea in religion.

I have yet to see any scientific data strongly supporting Intelligent Design (other than a wide array of ridiculous odds).
I wonder if anyone could ever figure out some way to create ridiculous odds for the existence of God.
Would it change anyone's beliefs?

For some reason, I feel like the creators of Intelligent Design are just trying to inject the idea of God into science by showing people (really only targeting those of weakening or recently given up faith), that God is a part of science, too!
Of course, that's entirely speculation, and I didn't really mention a motive, but it's good enough.

This post was edited by chiefwiggum654 on Dec 12 2008 10:25pm

Science for sure. The only thing religion did to influence me was to push me more towards science. I couldn't stand the loopholes/fallacies in the bible and in the teachings of Christianity, so I diverted. No offense to those who believe- it just does not work for me and my life.

I believe in science, but we don't need it.

0% religion. It does absolutely nothing for me.

Intelligent Design was the only Science principal till Darwins extremly flawed Evolution theory came about. We as Human's can't even begin to comprehend the complexity of some organism's, the Flagellum is like a modern car motor, even more complex, with each part having to be in working order for it to operate, and this has been around for tens of thousands of years unchanged, yet only recently Humanity made something similar, theres no way Natural Selection could have completed this. The reason people don't take it seriously is because the top biological scientists still are too ignortant to see that what they are studying is not from Natural Selection. Thats why there is few studys.

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Intelligent design was not a scientific principle before Darwin and still is not science.
The current theory of evolution has stood up to decades of rigorous scientific critique and has mountains of evidence behind it.

You are continuing to make an argument from ignorance.
You can't imagine how that structure could evolve, therefore we as humans can't comprehend the complexity and thus there must be a designer (implying god). Evolution being incorrect does not make Intelligent Design correct either.

Also scientists look for natural explanations, doing otherwise would not be science. They reject intelligent design because it isn't science, examples of irreducible complexity are always shown to be far from it, and even in the cases where we currently don't have an explanation for how something could evolve does not mean we can not later find a possible evolutionary pathway.

"God did it" is not, has not, and never will be science.

God did it