Quote (Mosso4 @ Thu, Dec 11 2008, 04:32am)
Fission Reactors will be clean,safe, and I think about a billion times more effecient than Nuclear Reactors(Fussion), but won't be ready for 50 years b/c of lack of funding and technological breakthroughs. Saw it on a Discovery channel program on alternative energys. We should be dumping money into this, what other alternative energies do you know about?
The technology itself won't be ready for at least 50 years (AT LEAST- emphasis) within sound energy production limitations.
The reactors, like current nuclear reactors, will take decades to build on top of that.
Quote (ChaosDealer73 @ Thu, Dec 11 2008, 04:35am)
You have the terms confused. Currently we use nuclear fission, and the energy you're talking about is fusion. Fusion is the forcing of atomic nuclei together while fission is the opposite. The current problems with fusion is that it takes more energy to mine/make the radioactive forms of hydrogen (Deuterium and Tritium), and even more energy to fuse it that you end up losing energy. Eventually we would want a self-sustaining reactor that we only need to feed. It is the same concept of a star; perpetual fusion to create energy.
Currently, the only "clean" energies would be wind, water, solar, and potentially geothermal. Other than that it will simply be perfecting the technologies we DO have such as clean coal, natural gas, and the nuclear fission that recycles the plutonium-239 created by the breakdown of uranium-235. I believe those types of reactors are called Breeding Reactors. They use a mixture of PU-238 and U-235 to help cut down on the nuclear waste.
There are dozens of carbon neutral energy sources as well as case specific power alternatives (MFCs for example). Lack of funding for research in less broad power applications lead to a lessened progression of an overall solution. We have more options to explore than non-fuelled )loosely applied).
Quote (Yankzfan @ Thu, Dec 11 2008, 05:26am)
Wind, Water, Solar energy are clean, but they aren't very effective.
ChaosDealer's post pretty much says what I was about to waste a paragraph writing...so Yeah, go with that =)
They are hugely effective...
Quote (Myrddrall9 @ Thu, Dec 11 2008, 05:31am)
The problem with solar energy is that only a small fraction of it actually hits our planet, and of that fraction only a tiny amount is able to be utilized (not to mention the inefficiencies of current solar panel technology).
Why would we consider the solar energy that doesn't hit our planet? That's irrelevant. The only reason it is considered inefficient is because people typically assume that solar energy refers to solar panels, which have the disadvantage of a poor conversion factor from radiant to electrical energy per surface area of panel.
Solar turbines/solar towers are far more productive, an a viable source of energy in mass production.
Quote (Myrddrall9 @ Thu, Dec 11 2008, 05:31am)
EDIT:Not to say that we shouldn't use solar, it's just the hardest to use to it's full potential.
We don't use the full potential of any energy source. As far as solar turbines go, they're pretty easy to utilise an endless amount of energy (in the right location) in comparison to fuel powered plants which require purification, insulations, etc. etc. of fuel and the plant itself.
Quote (ChaosDealer73 @ Thu, Dec 11 2008, 05:42am)
There were debates on putting solar panels in space where the atmosphere would not lessen the energy absorbed, but the issue was getting the energy back down to earth. Someone suggested using microwaves to beam it back to earth, but I'd feel bad for whatever happened to cross the path of that beam. Hehe.. insta-fried bird.
And you're right about solar energy being difficult to use effectively. The best things to do in terms of solar energy is to use it per capita. Try to build all buildings using passive solar energy while using active solar energy panels on the house (And adding a geothermal pipe would be all the better). That will save a ton on electricity and the rest (which will be significantly less) would be covered by the electrical grid.
Also, putting solar panels in deserted areas/deserts would be more useful, but expensive.
Solar panels aren't the only form of solar power. Why do people always draw that assumption?
Quote (BovineDesi @ Thu, Dec 11 2008, 09:23am)
Methane gas can also be used as natural fuel, and so can vege oil...pretty much any oil and it is as effective as gasoline. Those are conveniently forgotten.
It's already done in industry to reduce emissions and produce a substantial amount of power. Don't see why it's not being done commercially.