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Nov 12 2011 05:32pm
Yes, it is.
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Nov 12 2011 05:33pm
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Seriously, from what I read in the past 5 years in forums, you're the most annoying pessimist sheep ever.

It's called skepticism. Any scientist is necessarily skeptical of far-fetched claims that have no evidence to support them. The opposite of skepticism is gullibility. You must be gullible if you're willing to throw your support behind something completely unproven like the alkaline diet.

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How dumb! In your world, the acids appear in the urine?

Test your urinary pH and find out that I'm right. Go on, I'll wait. Hell, even DieTryin' will agree with me here. You're so incredibly misinformed about this topic that even Wikipedia would be immensely helpful for you.

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Did you know that some white blood cells can hold the informations about what it fighted for about 50 years? ==>> But they won't tell you and you know why...

That's common knowledge. Yes, I knew that. But you know what? The flu virus evolves/mutates CONSTANTLY. The flu vaccine contains the three strains that virology experts predict are most likely to be around that year. So if you had last year's flu vaccine, you can still get "the flu" this year because your immune system will think it's a completely different virus, even if it's only slightly changed from any of the scores of strains you've experienced in the past. So did you have a reason to actually post that little snippet? Or are you thinking you'd stump me with some seventh grade biology trivia?

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Mr.Yougn might not seem as professionnal as you think, but this guy was a pionneer in his domain. You just have to read a book from him and you'll understand his works ; He might have cured them only with thaughts ; he's a psychanalist... why do you think placebo effect works : Happy mind , Happy behavior , Happy Body = Better body outputs rather behing sick carving in your sickness.
( Look at how chemistry work in your brain when you're feeling something good or bad.)

The placebo effect just goes in line with what I was saying. There would be absolutely nothing special about the alkaline diet. You just have to change your diet to anything else and have the expectation that it will help you. That's enough to trigger any benefits from the placebo effect.

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Ps : Do you know that electric motors were invented before gas ones?

Get that off a Snapple bottle cap? It's completely irrelevant to anything being discussed in this thread, and probably to any other thread on this whole forum.
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Nov 12 2011 07:32pm
I'd say no.
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Nov 12 2011 07:42pm
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I'd say no.


Stop saying shit like this. I was just starting to tolerate your posts...
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Nov 12 2011 11:56pm
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Test your urinary pH and find out that I'm right. Go on, I'll wait. Hell, even DieTryin' will agree with me here. You're so incredibly misinformed about this topic that even Wikipedia would be immensely helpful for you.

The placebo effect just goes in line with what I was saying. There would be absolutely nothing special about the alkaline diet. You just have to change your diet to anything else and have the expectation that it will help you. That's enough to trigger any benefits from the placebo effect.


Stomac>Blood>kidneys>urine

This, and I would add that the alkaline diet might work for someone that miss alkalines to make his/her body work better..

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Nov 13 2011 12:32am
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Stomac>Blood>kidneys>urine

So basically you're acknowledging that I was right and you were wrong to call me dumb, since what you eat does affect the pH of your urine.

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This, and I would add that the alkaline diet might work for someone that miss alkalines to make his/her body work better..

What do you mean by "work"? Because it sure as hell hasn't been proven to do anything that DieTryin' is claiming it does.
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Nov 13 2011 01:43am
Quote (bentherdonethat @ Nov 12 2011 03:33pm)
It's called skepticism. Any scientist is necessarily skeptical of far-fetched claims that have no evidence to support them. The opposite of skepticism is gullibility. You must be gullible if you're willing to throw your support behind something completely unproven like the alkaline diet.


Test your urinary pH and find out that I'm right. Go on, I'll wait. Hell, even DieTryin' will agree with me here. You're so incredibly misinformed about this topic that even Wikipedia would be immensely helpful for you.

If it was really about finding a "cure" or anything that could be a potential cure there would be massive amounts of information about it. Don't you find it odd that there is little to no "official" research done with such things? It's the law that only a drug can cure, prevent, diagnose or treat a disease(yes, this is the law, how does this not bother you?) I reversed my disease through diet after failing with drugs for over 20 years with many side effects.

And yes diet does effect the pH of your urine if that's what is trying to be figured out here.


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What do you mean by "work"? Because it sure as hell hasn't been proven to do anything that DieTryin' is claiming it does.

I don't understand why you don't even consider it. I have reversed my own illness that I was born with and met many other people who have reversed theirs, including people who had diabetes for 30+ years. It's right in front of my eyes and I'm not lying about it, so I don't get why it's so hard to even consider it.

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Nov 13 2011 10:59am
most probably is, we're doing decent at the moment.

main problem of cancers is the fact they tend to reoccur and it's still quite hard to target individual cancer cells so that they're all eliminated. One single leftover cancer cell can start the whole cycle again.

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Now take into consideration that it takes 20 parts alkalinity to neutralize 1 part acidity. This is just to neutralize it, where as the goal is to alkalize. With these things in mind, would it not make sense to keep our diets more alkaline?


lol what is this i don't even
you trolling?

besides, the body maintains steady pH via buffering, not acid-base neutralisation.

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I don't need to take a chemistry course to know that the ratio to neutralize acidity is 20:1.


source?
i guess you just troll

This post was edited by Ocen on Nov 13 2011 11:09am
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Nov 13 2011 12:10pm
Ofc it is.

The only reason it isnt it's because treatments generate Billions of $$$ and millions of jobs. Imagine if tomorrow they announce hey cured cancer... Lot,s of people would lose their jobs (Pharma) and economy would be going down like shit.

You give research a blank chek to find a cure and they will find it within a year.

Sad but true.

Last disease we cure was fucking scurvy. Tell me I'm wrong. Insulin all by itself generates 6 Billions $. See my point?

Ofc people overrate humanity and it's common sense all the time. So people die.
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Nov 13 2011 12:51pm
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most probably is, we're doing decent at the moment.

main problem of cancers is the fact they tend to reoccur and it's still quite hard to target individual cancer cells so that they're all eliminated. One single leftover cancer cell can start the whole cycle again.



lol what is this i don't even
you trolling?

besides, the body maintains steady pH via buffering, not acid-base neutralisation.



source?
i guess you just troll

You say we're doing decent and you call me a troll? Lol.

Gee, I wonder why is reoccurs. Yes, get them cancer cells!

"The body maintains steady pH via buffering, not acid-base neutralization" LMAO

Now I know you're trolling.


Quote (Krypto @ Nov 13 2011 10:10am)
Ofc it is.

The only reason it isnt it's because treatments generate Billions of $$$ and millions of jobs. Imagine if tomorrow they announce hey cured cancer... Lot,s of people would lose their jobs (Pharma) and economy would be going down like shit.

You give research a blank chek to find a cure and they will find it within a year.

Sad but true.

Last disease we cure was fucking scurvy. Tell me I'm wrong. Insulin all by itself generates 6 Billions $. See my point?

Ofc people overrate humanity and it's common sense all the time. So people die.

Yep. These publicly traded pharmaceutical companies don't give a shit about finding a "cure". It's all about how much more money they can make next year with new patented drugs and services.
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